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From: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>
To: Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>
Cc: Okash Khawaja <osk@fb.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	Quentin Monnet <quentin.monnet@netronome.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	<kernel-team@fb.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 2/3] bpf: btf: add btf json print functionality
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 17:25:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180621172523.6cd00ed1@cakuba.netronome.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180621235746.dfq6kdtkogftw3ws@kafai-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 16:58:15 -0700, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 04:07:19PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 15:51:17 -0700, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:  
> > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 02:59:35PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:  
> > > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 13:30:53 -0700, Okash Khawaja wrote:    
> > > > > $ sudo bpftool map dump -p id 14
> > > > > [{
> > > > >         "key": 0
> > > > >     },{
> > > > >         "value": {
> > > > >             "m": 1,
> > > > >             "n": 2,
> > > > >             "o": "c",
> > > > >             "p": [15,16,17,18,15,16,17,18
> > > > >             ],
> > > > >             "q": [[25,26,27,28,25,26,27,28
> > > > >                 ],[35,36,37,38,35,36,37,38
> > > > >                 ],[45,46,47,48,45,46,47,48
> > > > >                 ],[55,56,57,58,55,56,57,58
> > > > >                 ]
> > > > >             ],
> > > > >             "r": 1,
> > > > >             "s": 0x7ffff6f70568,
> > > > >             "t": {
> > > > >                 "x": 5,
> > > > >                 "y": 10
> > > > >             },
> > > > >             "u": 100,
> > > > >             "v": 20,
> > > > >             "w1": 0x7,
> > > > >             "w2": 0x3
> > > > >         }
> > > > >     }
> > > > > ]    
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think this format is okay, JSON output is an API you shouldn't
> > > > break.  You can change the non-JSON output whatever way you like, but
> > > > JSON must remain backwards compatible.
> > > > 
> > > > The dump today has object per entry, e.g.:
> > > > 
> > > > {
> > > >         "key":["0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00",
> > > >         ],
> > > >         "value": ["0x02","0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00"
> > > >         ]
> > > > }
> > > > 
> > > > This format must remain, you may only augment it with new fields.  E.g.:
> > > > 
> > > > {
> > > >         "key":["0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00",
> > > >         ],
> > > > 	"key_struct":{
> > > > 		"index":0
> > > > 	},
> > > >         "value": ["0x02","0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00"
> > > >         ],
> > > > 	"value_struct":{
> > > > 		"src_ip":2,
> > > > 		"dst_ip:0
> > > > 	}
> > > > }    
> > > I am not sure how useful to have both "key|value" and "(key|value)_struct"
> > > while most people would prefer "key_struct"/"value_struct" if it is
> > > available.  
> > 
> > Agreed, it's not that useful, especially with the string-hex debacle :(
> > It's just about the backwards compat.
> >   
> > > How about introducing a new option, like "-b", to print the
> > > map with BTF (if available) such that it won't break the existing
> > > one (-j or -p) while the "-b" output can keep using the "key"
> > > and "value".
> > > 
> > > The existing json can be kept as is.  
> > 
> > That was my knee jerk reaction too, but on reflection it doesn't sound
> > that great.  We expect people with new-enough bpftool to use btf, so it
> > should be available in the default output, without hiding it behind a
> > switch.  We could add a switch to hide the old output, but that doesn't
> > give us back the names...  What about Key and Value or k and v?  Or
> > key_fields and value_fields?  
> I thought the current default output is "plain" ;)
> Having said that, yes, the btf is currently printed in json.
> 
> Ideally, the default json output should do what most people want:
> print btf and btf only (if it is available).
> but I don't see a way out without new option if we need to
> be backward compat :(
> 
> Agree that showing the btf in the existing json output will be useful (e.g.
> to hint people that BTF is available).  If btf is showing in old json,
> also agree that the names should be the same with the new json.
> key_fields and value_fields may hint it has >1 fields though.
> May be "formatted_key" and "formatted_value"?

SGTM!  Or even maybe as a "formatted" object?:

{
         "key":["0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00",
         ],
         "value": ["0x02","0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00","0x00"
         ],
	"formatted":{
	 	"key":{
 			"index":0
	 	},
	 	"value":{
 			"src_ip":2,
 			"dst_ip:0
	 	}
	}
}  

> > > > The name XYZ_struct may not be the best, perhaps you can come up with a
> > > > better one?  
> > > > 
> > > > Does that make sense?  Am I missing what you're doing here?
> > > > 
> > > > One process note - please make sure you run checkpatch.pl --strict on
> > > > bpftool patches before posting.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for working on this!    

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-22  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-20 20:30 [PATCH bpf-next 0/3] bpf: btf: json print btf info with bpftool map dump Okash Khawaja
2018-06-20 20:30 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/3] bpf: btf: export btf types and name by offset from lib Okash Khawaja
2018-06-20 22:40   ` Song Liu
2018-06-20 22:48     ` Okash Khawaja
2018-06-20 23:24       ` Song Liu
2018-06-20 20:30 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/3] bpf: btf: add btf json print functionality Okash Khawaja
2018-06-20 23:14   ` Song Liu
2018-06-21 10:31     ` Okash Khawaja
2018-06-21 10:42   ` Quentin Monnet
2018-06-22 10:24     ` Okash Khawaja
2018-06-22 10:39       ` Quentin Monnet
2018-06-22 18:44         ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-06-21 21:59   ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-06-21 22:51     ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-06-21 23:07       ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-06-21 23:58         ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-06-22  0:25           ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2018-06-22  1:20             ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-06-22 11:17               ` Okash Khawaja
2018-06-22 18:43                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-06-22 18:40               ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-06-22 20:58                 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-06-22 21:27                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-06-22 21:49                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-06-22 23:19                       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-06-22 23:40                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-06-22 23:58                           ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-06-22 22:48                     ` Okash Khawaja
2018-06-22 22:54                     ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-06-22 23:32                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-06-23  0:26                         ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-06-26 16:48                           ` Okash Khawaja
2018-06-26 20:31                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-06-26 22:27                               ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-06-26 22:35                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-06-27 10:34                                   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-06-27 11:47                                     ` Okash Khawaja
2018-06-27 12:56                                       ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-07-01 10:31                                         ` Okash Khawaja
2018-07-02 17:19                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-06-20 20:30 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/3] bpf: btf: json print map dump with btf info Okash Khawaja
2018-06-20 23:22   ` Song Liu
2018-06-21 10:05     ` Okash Khawaja
2018-06-21 10:24   ` Quentin Monnet
2018-06-21 14:26     ` Okash Khawaja

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