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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: Ben Hutchings <ben.hutchings@codethink.co.uk>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"<netdev@vger.kernel.org>" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@lists.codethink.co.uk,
	linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ben Dooks <ben.dooks@codethink.co.uk>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] skb: Define NET_IP_ALIGN based on CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 19:07:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181004180755.GE30658@n2100.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu9MBJ0w+23XMg+w_EYEf0Hx8dkW-w-rf4Bzu_c3GN_YiQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 07:43:59PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> (+ Arnd, Russell, Catalin, Will)
> 
> On 4 October 2018 at 19:36, Ben Hutchings <ben.hutchings@codethink.co.uk> wrote:
> > NET_IP_ALIGN is supposed to be defined as 0 if DMA writes to an
> > unaligned buffer would be more expensive than CPU access to unaligned
> > header fields, and otherwise defined as 2.
> >
> > Currently only ppc64 and x86 configurations define it to be 0.
> > However several other architectures (conditionally) define
> > CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS, which seems to imply that
> > NET_IP_ALIGN should be 0.
> >
> > Remove the overriding definitions for ppc64 and x86 and define
> > NET_IP_ALIGN solely based on CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Ben Hutchings <ben.hutchings@codethink.co.uk>
> 
> While this makes sense for arm64, I don't think it is appropriate for
> ARM per se.
> 
> The unusual thing about ARM is that some instructions require 32-bit
> alignment even when CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS is set,
> (i.e., load/store multiple, load/store double), and we rely on
> alignment fixups done by the kernel to deal with the fallout if such
> instructions happen to be used on unaligned quantities (Russell,
> please correct me if this is inaccurate)

Correct, and we do have some assembly that use ldmia in the net code
(eg, for checksum calculation.)  Having NET_IP_ALIGN be 0 on ARM
coupled with a network adapter that doesn't do its own checksumming
would mean every non-hw-checksummed IP packet hitting the alignment
fixup - and not just once per packet.

So it's likely that this change could provoke reports of performance
regressions for ARM.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-05  1:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-04 17:36 [RFC PATCH] skb: Define NET_IP_ALIGN based on CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Ben Hutchings
2018-10-04 17:43 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-04 17:44   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-04 18:07   ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2018-10-05 13:16   ` Will Deacon
2018-10-05 16:59 ` David Laight

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