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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: christian@brauner.io
Cc: dsahern@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, jbenc@redhat.com,
	stephen@networkplumber.org, dsahern@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 00/23] rtnetlink: Add support for rigid checking of data in dump request
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 10:40:29 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181008.104029.1379253630304646129.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181008110412.43o5qgaaqvsf2znw@brauner.io>

From: Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 13:04:13 +0200

> On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 08:16:21PM -0700, David Ahern wrote:
>> From: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
>> 
>> There are many use cases where a user wants to influence what is
>> returned in a dump for some rtnetlink command: one is wanting data
>> for a different namespace than the one the request is received and
>> another is limiting the amount of data returned in the dump to a
>> specific set of interest to userspace, reducing the cpu overhead of
>> both kernel and userspace. Unfortunately, the kernel has historically
>> not been strict with checking for the proper header or checking the
>> values passed in the header. This lenient implementation has allowed
>> iproute2 and other packages to pass any struct or data in the dump
>> request as long as the family is the first byte. For example, ifinfomsg
>> struct is used by iproute2 for all generic dump requests - links,
>> addresses, routes and rules when it is really only valid for link
>> requests.
>> 
>> There is 1 is example where the kernel deals with the wrong struct: link
>> dumps after VF support was added. Older iproute2 was sending rtgenmsg as
>> the header instead of ifinfomsg so a patch was added to try and detect
>> old userspace vs new:
>> e5eca6d41f53 ("rtnetlink: fix userspace API breakage for iproute2 < v3.9.0")
>> 
>> The latest example is Christian's patch set wanting to return addresses for
>> a target namespace. It guesses the header struct is an ifaddrmsg and if it
>> guesses wrong a netlink warning is generated in the kernel log on every
>> address dump which is unacceptable.
>> 
>> Another example where the kernel is a bit lenient is route dumps: iproute2
>> can send either a request with either ifinfomsg or a rtmsg as the header
>> struct, yet the kernel always treats the header as an rtmsg (see
>> inet_dump_fib and rtm_flags check). The header inconsistency impacts the
>> ability to add kernel side filters for route dumps - a necessary feature
>> for scale setups with 100k+ routes.
>> 
>> How to resolve the problem of not breaking old userspace yet be able to
>> move forward with new features such as kernel side filtering which are
>> crucial for efficient operation at high scale?
>> 
>> This patch set addresses the problem by adding a new socket flag,
>> NETLINK_DUMP_STRICT_CHK, that userspace can use with setsockopt to
>> request strict checking of headers and attributes on dump requests and
>> hence unlock the ability to use kernel side filters as they are added.
 ...
> At this point it's all nits so it's got my ACK but keener eyes than mine
> might see other issues.
> 
> Acked-by: Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>

Series applied, thanks everyone.

Please be on the lookout for userspace regressions from this patch set.

Thanks.

      reply	other threads:[~2018-10-09  0:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-08  3:16 [PATCH v2 net-next 00/23] rtnetlink: Add support for rigid checking of data in dump request David Ahern
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 01/23] netlink: Pass extack to dump handlers David Ahern
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 02/23] netlink: Add extack message to nlmsg_parse for invalid header length David Ahern
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 03/23] net: Add extack to nlmsg_parse David Ahern
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 04/23] netlink: Add strict version of nlmsg_parse and nla_parse David Ahern
2018-10-08  9:52   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 05/23] net/ipv6: Refactor address dump to push inet6_fill_args to in6_dump_addrs David Ahern
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 06/23] netlink: Add new socket option to enable strict checking on dumps David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:04   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 07/23] net/ipv4: Update inet_dump_ifaddr for strict data checking David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:06   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 08/23] net/ipv6: Update inet6_dump_addr " David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:10   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 09/23] rtnetlink: Update rtnl_dump_ifinfo " David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:14   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 10/23] rtnetlink: Update rtnl_bridge_getlink " David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:15   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 11/23] rtnetlink: Update rtnl_stats_dump " David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:17   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08 13:25     ` David Ahern
2018-10-08 18:02       ` David Miller
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 12/23] rtnetlink: Update inet6_dump_ifinfo " David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:18   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 13/23] rtnetlink: Update ipmr_rtm_dumplink " David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:43   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 14/23] rtnetlink: Update fib dumps " David Ahern
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 15/23] net/neighbor: Update neigh_dump_info " David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:47   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 16/23] net/neighbor: Update neightbl_dump_info " David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:47   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 17/23] net/namespace: Update rtnl_net_dumpid " David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:54   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08 13:28     ` David Ahern
2018-10-08 13:37       ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 18/23] net/fib_rules: Update fib_nl_dumprule " David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:48   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 19/23] net/ipv6: Update ip6addrlbl_dump " David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:51   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 20/23] net: Update netconf dump handlers " David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:51   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 21/23] net/bridge: Update br_mdb_dump " David Ahern
2018-10-08 10:55   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 22/23] rtnetlink: Move input checking for rtnl_fdb_dump to helper David Ahern
2018-10-08 11:01   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 23/23] rtnetlink: Update rtnl_fdb_dump for strict data checking David Ahern
2018-10-08 11:02   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08 11:04 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 00/23] rtnetlink: Add support for rigid checking of data in dump request Christian Brauner
2018-10-08 17:40   ` David Miller [this message]

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