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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@intel.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, wexu@redhat.com,
	jfreimann@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 3/5] virtio_ring: add packed ring support
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 09:14:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181108091337-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2d46a41e-bc00-276a-e19a-105c9dffc75a@redhat.com>

On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 04:18:25PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> On 2018/11/8 上午9:38, Tiwei Bie wrote:
> > > > +
> > > > +	if (vq->vq.num_free < descs_used) {
> > > > +		pr_debug("Can't add buf len %i - avail = %i\n",
> > > > +			 descs_used, vq->vq.num_free);
> > > > +		/* FIXME: for historical reasons, we force a notify here if
> > > > +		 * there are outgoing parts to the buffer.  Presumably the
> > > > +		 * host should service the ring ASAP. */
> > > I don't think we have a reason to do this for packed ring.
> > > No historical baggage there, right?
> > Based on the original commit log, it seems that the notify here
> > is just an "optimization". But I don't quite understand what does
> > the "the heuristics which KVM uses" refer to. If it's safe to drop
> > this in packed ring, I'd like to do it.
> 
> 
> According to the commit log, it seems like a workaround of lguest networking
> backend. I agree to drop it, we should not have such burden.
> 
> But we should notice that, with this removed, the compare between packed vs
> split is kind of unfair.

I don't think this ever triggers to be frank. When would it?

> Consider the removal of lguest support recently,
> maybe we can drop this for split ring as well?
> 
> Thanks

If it's helpful, then for sure we can drop it for virtio 1.
Can you see any perf differences at all? With which device?

> 
> > 
> > commit 44653eae1407f79dff6f52fcf594ae84cb165ec4
> > Author: Rusty Russell<rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
> > Date:   Fri Jul 25 12:06:04 2008 -0500
> > 
> >      virtio: don't always force a notification when ring is full
> >      We force notification when the ring is full, even if the host has
> >      indicated it doesn't want to know.  This seemed like a good idea at
> >      the time: if we fill the transmit ring, we should tell the host
> >      immediately.
> >      Unfortunately this logic also applies to the receiving ring, which is
> >      refilled constantly.  We should introduce real notification thesholds
> >      to replace this logic.  Meanwhile, removing the logic altogether breaks
> >      the heuristics which KVM uses, so we use a hack: only notify if there are
> >      outgoing parts of the new buffer.
> >      Here are the number of exits with lguest's crappy network implementation:
> >      Before:
> >              network xmit 7859051 recv 236420
> >      After:
> >              network xmit 7858610 recv 118136
> >      Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell<rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c b/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
> > index 72bf8bc09014..21d9a62767af 100644
> > --- a/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
> > +++ b/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
> > @@ -87,8 +87,11 @@ static int vring_add_buf(struct virtqueue *_vq,
> >   	if (vq->num_free < out + in) {
> >   		pr_debug("Can't add buf len %i - avail = %i\n",
> >   			 out + in, vq->num_free);
> > -		/* We notify*even if*  VRING_USED_F_NO_NOTIFY is set here. */
> > -		vq->notify(&vq->vq);
> > +		/* FIXME: for historical reasons, we force a notify here if
> > +		 * there are outgoing parts to the buffer.  Presumably the
> > +		 * host should service the ring ASAP. */
> > +		if (out)
> > +			vq->notify(&vq->vq);
> >   		END_USE(vq);
> >   		return -ENOSPC;
> >   	}
> > 
> > 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-08 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-11  2:27 [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] virtio: support packed ring Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/5] virtio: add packed ring definitions Tiwei Bie
2018-09-07 13:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-10  2:13     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-12 12:53       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-11  2:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] virtio_ring: support creating packed ring Tiwei Bie
2018-09-07 14:03   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-10  2:28     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-12  7:51       ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-12 16:12         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-12 12:45       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-11  2:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/5] virtio_ring: add packed ring support Tiwei Bie
2018-09-07 13:49   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-10  2:03     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-12 16:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-07 17:48   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-08  1:38     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-11-08  8:18       ` Jason Wang
2018-11-08 11:51         ` Tiwei Bie
2018-11-08 15:56           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-09  1:50             ` Tiwei Bie
2018-11-09  2:30             ` Jason Wang
2018-11-09  4:00               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-09 10:05                 ` Jason Wang
2018-11-08 14:14         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2018-11-09  2:25           ` Jason Wang
2018-11-09  3:58             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-09 10:04               ` Jason Wang
2018-07-11  2:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/5] virtio_ring: add event idx support in packed ring Tiwei Bie
2018-09-07 14:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-10  2:35     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/5] virtio_ring: enable " Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] virtio: support " Jason Wang
2018-07-12 21:44 ` David Miller
2018-07-13  0:52   ` Jason Wang
2018-07-13  3:26   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-27 14:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-28  5:51   ` [virtio-dev] " Jens Freimann
2018-09-07  1:22   ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-07 13:00     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-10  3:00       ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-10  3:33         ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2018-09-11  5:37           ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-12 16:16             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-13  8:59               ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-13  9:47                 ` Jason Wang
2018-10-10 14:36                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-11 12:12                     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-10-11 13:48                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-11 14:13                         ` Tiwei Bie
2018-10-11 14:17                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-11 14:34                             ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-12 13:06         ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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