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From: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@gmail.com>
To: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	thomas.lendacky@amd.com, f.fainelli@gmail.com,
	ariel.elior@cavium.com, michael.chan@broadcom.com,
	santosh@chelsio.com, madalin.bucur@nxp.com,
	yisen.zhuang@huawei.com, salil.mehta@huawei.com,
	jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com, tariqt@mellanox.com,
	saeedm@mellanox.com, jiri@mellanox.com, idosch@mellanox.com,
	jakub.kicinski@netronome.com, peppe.cavallaro@st.com,
	grygorii.strashko@ti.com, andrew@lunn.ch,
	vivien.didelot@savoirfairelinux.com, alexandre.torgue@st.com,
	joabreu@synopsys.com, linux-net-drivers@solarflare.com,
	ganeshgr@chelsio.com, ogerlitz@mellanox.com,
	Manish.Chopra@cavium.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next,v3 00/12] add flow_rule infrastructure
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:28:44 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181126202844.GD30481@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181126193336.6vpumuc2ekt6oudy@salvia>

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 08:33:36PM +0100, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> Hi Marcelo,

Hello!

> 
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 07:08:32PM -0200, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 02:22:20PM -0200, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 03:51:20AM +0100, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > This patchset is the third iteration [1] [2] [3] to introduce a kernel
> > > > intermediate (IR) to express ACL hardware offloads.
> > > 
> > > On v2 cover letter you had:
> > > 
> > > """
> > > However, cost of this layer is very small, adding 1 million rules via
> > > tc -batch, perf shows:
> > > 
> > >      0.06%  tc               [kernel.vmlinux]    [k] tc_setup_flow_action
> > > """
> > > 
> > > The above doesn't include time spent on children calls and I'm worried
> > > about the new allocation done by flow_rule_alloc(), as it can impact
> > > rule insertion rate. I'll run some tests here and report back.
> > 
> > I'm seeing +60ms on 1.75s (~3.4%) to add 40k flower rules on ingress
> > with skip_hw and tc in batch mode, with flows like:
> > 
> > filter add dev p6p2 parent ffff: protocol ip prio 1 flower skip_hw
> > src_mac ec:13:db:00:00:00 dst_mac ec:14:c2:00:00:00 src_ip
> > 56.0.0.0 dst_ip 55.0.0.0 action drop
> > 
> > Only 20ms out of those 60ms were consumed within fl_change() calls
> > (considering children calls), though.
> > 
> > Do you see something similar?  I used current net-next (d59da3fbfe3f)
> > and with this patchset applied.
> 
> I see lots of send() and recv() in tc -batch via strace, using this
> example rule, repeating it N times:
> 
>         filter add dev eth0 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 flower dst_mac f4:52:14:10:df:92 action mirred egress redirect dev eth1
> 
> This is taking ~8 seconds for 40k rules from my old laptop [*], this
> is already not too fast (without my patchset).

On a E5-2643 v3 @ 3.40GHz I see a total of 1.17s with an old iproute
(4.11) (more below).

> 
> I remember we discussed about adding support for real batching for tc
> - probably we can probably do this transparently by assuming that if the
> skbuff length mismatches nlmsghdr->len field, then we enter the batch
> mode from the kernel. This would require to update iproute2 to use
> libmnl batching routines, or code that follows similar approach
> otherwise.

Yes, I believe you're referring to

commit 485d0c6001c4aa134b99c86913d6a7089b7b2ab0
Author: Chris Mi <chrism@mellanox.com>
Date:   Fri Jan 12 14:13:16 2018 +0900

    tc: Add batchsize feature for filter and actions

Which is present in 4.16. It does transparent batching on app side.

With tc from today's tip, I get 1.05s for 40k rules, both with this
patchset applied.

> 
> [*] 0.5 seconds in nft (similar ruleset), this is using netlink batching.

Nice.

Cheers,
  Marcelo

      reply	other threads:[~2018-11-27  7:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-21  2:51 [PATCH net-next,v3 00/12] add flow_rule infrastructure Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-21  2:51 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 01/12] flow_dissector: add flow_rule and flow_match structures and use them Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-21  2:51 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 02/12] net/mlx5e: support for two independent packet edit actions Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-21  2:51 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 03/12] flow_dissector: add flow action infrastructure Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-22  4:47   ` Florian Fainelli
2018-11-21  2:51 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 04/12] cls_api: add translator to flow_action representation Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-21 21:15   ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2018-11-21 23:48     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-22 16:33   ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2018-11-21  2:51 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 05/12] cls_flower: add statistics retrieval infrastructure and use it Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-21  2:51 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 06/12] drivers: net: use flow action infrastructure Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-21  2:51 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 07/12] cls_flower: don't expose TC actions to drivers anymore Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-21  2:51 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 08/12] flow_dissector: add wake-up-on-lan and queue to flow_action Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-21  2:51 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 09/12] flow_dissector: add basic ethtool_rx_flow_spec to flow_rule structure translator Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-22  4:57   ` Florian Fainelli
2018-11-22  6:19     ` Jiri Pirko
2018-11-22  4:59   ` Florian Fainelli
2018-11-22  6:21     ` Jiri Pirko
2018-11-21  2:51 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 10/12] dsa: bcm_sf2: use flow_rule infrastructure Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-22  4:56   ` Florian Fainelli
2018-11-21  2:51 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 11/12] qede: place ethtool_rx_flow_spec after code after TC flower codebase Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-21  2:51 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 12/12] qede: use ethtool_rx_flow_rule() to remove duplicated parser code Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-22 16:59   ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2018-11-22 16:22 ` [PATCH net-next,v3 00/12] add flow_rule infrastructure Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2018-11-22 21:08   ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2018-11-26 19:33     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-11-26 20:28       ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner [this message]

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