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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@gmail.com>
Cc: magnus.karlsson@intel.com, magnus.karlsson@gmail.com,
	ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@intel.com>,
	u9012063@gmail.com, qi.z.zhang@intel.com, brouer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 0/7] Add XDP_ATTACH bind() flag to AF_XDP sockets
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 14:42:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181207144203.26dec7e8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181207114431.18038-1-bjorn.topel@gmail.com>

On Fri,  7 Dec 2018 12:44:24 +0100
Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@gmail.com> wrote:

> The rationale behind attach is performance and ease of use. Many XDP
> socket users just need a simple way of creating/binding a socket and
> receiving frames right away without loading an XDP program.
> 
> XDP_ATTACH adds a mechanism we call "builtin XDP program" that simply
> is a kernel provided XDP program that is installed to the netdev when
> XDP_ATTACH is being passed as a bind() flag.
> 
> The builtin program is the simplest program possible to redirect a
> frame to an attached socket. In restricted C it would look like this:
>     
>   SEC("xdp")
>   int xdp_prog(struct xdp_md *ctx)
>   {
>         return bpf_xsk_redirect(ctx);
>   }
>     
> The builtin program loaded via XDP_ATTACH behaves, from an
> install-to-netdev/uninstall-from-netdev point of view, differently
> from regular XDP programs. The easiest way to look at it is as a
> 2-level hierarchy, where regular XDP programs has precedence over the
> builtin one.
>     
> If no regular XDP program is installed to the netdev, the builtin will
> be install. If the builtin program is installed, and a regular is
> installed, regular XDP program will have precedence over the builtin
> one.
>     
> Further, if a regular program is installed, and later removed, the
> builtin one will automatically be installed.
>     
> The sxdp_flags field of struct sockaddr_xdp gets two new options
> XDP_BUILTIN_SKB_MODE and XDP_BUILTIN_DRV_MODE, which maps to the
> corresponding XDP netlink install flags.
> 
> The builtin XDP program functionally adds even more complexity to the
> already hard to read dev_change_xdp_fd. Maybe it would be simpler to
> store the program in the struct net_device together with the install
> flags instead of calling the ndo_bpf multiple times?

(As far as I can see from reading the code, correct me if I'm wrong.)

If an AF_XDP program uses XDP_ATTACH, then it installs the
builtin-program as the XDP program on the "entire" device.  That means
all RX-queues will call this XDP-bpf program (indirect call), and it is
actually only relevant for the specific queue_index.  Yes, the helper
call does check that the 'xdp->rxq->queue_index' for an attached 'xsk'
and return XDP_PASS if it is NULL:

+BPF_CALL_1(bpf_xdp_xsk_redirect, struct xdp_buff *, xdp)
+{
+	struct bpf_redirect_info *ri = this_cpu_ptr(&bpf_redirect_info);
+	struct xdp_sock *xsk;
+
+	xsk = READ_ONCE(xdp->rxq->dev->_rx[xdp->rxq->queue_index].xsk);
+	if (xsk) {
+		ri->xsk = xsk;
+		return XDP_REDIRECT;
+	}
+
+	return XDP_PASS;
+}

Why do every normal XDP_PASS packet have to pay this overhead (indirect
call), when someone loads an AF_XDP socket program?  The AF_XDP socket
is tied hard and only relevant to a specific RX-queue (which is why we
get a performance boost due to SPSC queues).

I acknowledge there is a need for this, but this use-case shows there
is a need for attaching XDP programs per RX-queue basis.

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-07 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-07 11:44 [PATCH bpf-next 0/7] Add XDP_ATTACH bind() flag to AF_XDP sockets Björn Töpel
2018-12-07 11:44 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/7] xsk: simplify AF_XDP socket teardown Björn Töpel
2018-12-07 11:44 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/7] xsk: add XDP_ATTACH bind() flag Björn Töpel
2018-12-07 11:44 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/7] bpf: add bpf_xsk_redirect function Björn Töpel
2018-12-07 11:44 ` [PATCH bpf-next 4/7] bpf: prepare for builtin bpf program Björn Töpel
2018-12-07 11:44 ` [PATCH bpf-next 5/7] bpf: add function to load builtin BPF program Björn Töpel
2018-12-07 11:44 ` [PATCH bpf-next 6/7] xsk: load a builtin XDP program on XDP_ATTACH Björn Töpel
2018-12-10  2:17   ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-12-10  7:29     ` Björn Töpel
2018-12-07 13:42 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2018-12-07 14:01   ` [PATCH bpf-next 0/7] Add XDP_ATTACH bind() flag to AF_XDP sockets Björn Töpel
2018-12-08 14:52     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-12-08 18:43       ` Björn Töpel
2018-12-08 20:42         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-12-07 15:27   ` Björn Töpel
2018-12-07 21:21 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-12-08  9:31   ` Björn Töpel
2018-12-08 15:12   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-12-08 16:55     ` Andrew Lunn
2018-12-08 20:37       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-12-08 20:48         ` Andrew Lunn
2018-12-08 18:50     ` Björn Töpel
     [not found] ` <20181207114431.18038-8-bjorn.topel@gmail.com>
2018-12-08 10:08   ` [PATCH bpf-next 7/7] samples: bpf: add support for XDP_ATTACH to xdpsock Zhang, Qi Z
2018-12-10 14:01 ` [PATCH bpf-next 0/7] Add XDP_ATTACH bind() flag to AF_XDP sockets Björn Töpel

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