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From: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: Roopa Prabhu <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com>,
	Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com>,
	Phil Sutter <phil@nwl.cc>, Eric Garver <egarver@redhat.com>,
	Tomas Dolezal <todoleza@redhat.com>,
	Lennert Buytenhek <buytenh@gnu.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH iproute2-next] Introduce ip-brctl shell script
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 11:55:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190206115522.3843a125@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190205145033.5d90dc42@hermes.lan>

On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 14:50:33 -0800
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org> wrote:

> Providing brctl or ifconfig scripts is possible, but it really should
> be put in a sample or demo directory and not installed by default.
> It would just cause too much pain to distributions.

On one hand, I did it this way exactly to make it easy for
distributions (after all, I work for a distributor). The rationale is
that it's easier to get rid of things from package scripts rather than
add them. Also implementing a Debian package diversion looked more
elegant this way. No idea about other ones though.

On the other hand, I didn't even think of adding that to examples/.
Maybe that would alleviate David's concern about having to maintain it
forever (if it breaks temporarily, or if we need to remove it for some
reason, it's not a drama).

> I love concise human readable output and hate long winded VMS style
> commands.

That's exactly where I feel the current tools included in iproute2 fall
rather short. Compare "brctl show" to the closest equivalent "IFS='
'
for b in $(ip -br link show type bridge); do ip -br link show type
bridge_slave master ${b%% *}; done".

Sure, as Roopa said, we could and should improve 'bridge', and by now
I'm even almost convinced it's doable without breaking the existing
syntax, but it's not something we're doing overnight.

-- 
Stefano

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-06 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-18 17:00 [PATCH iproute2-next] Introduce ip-brctl shell script Stefano Brivio
2019-01-23 15:09 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-01-23 16:33   ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-01-25 10:05     ` Stefano Brivio
2019-01-28  5:08       ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-01-28  7:57         ` Stefano Brivio
2019-01-30 22:30           ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-01-31 12:46             ` Stefano Brivio
2019-01-31 16:28               ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-02-05 22:50                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-02-06 10:55                   ` Stefano Brivio [this message]
2019-01-25 10:04   ` Stefano Brivio
2019-01-30  4:51 ` David Ahern
2019-01-30 10:55   ` Stefano Brivio
2019-01-31  5:12     ` David Ahern
2019-01-31 12:46       ` Stefano Brivio
2019-01-31 12:49 ` Stefano Brivio

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