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From: Phil Sutter <phil@nwl.cc>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH iproute2] lib/libnetlink: ensure a minimum of 32KB for the buffer used in rtnl_recvmsg()
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 18:47:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190214174708.GV26388@orbyte.nwl.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <310f4861-1a65-cdcd-515c-b1f6da04b7d7@gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:34:06AM -0700, David Ahern wrote:
> On 2/14/19 6:49 AM, Michal Kubecek wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 07:04:17PM -0700, David Ahern wrote:
> >>
> >> Do we know of any single message sizes > 32k? 2d34851cd341 cites
> >> increasing VF's but at some point there is a limit. If not, the whole
> >> PEEK thing should go away and we just malloc 32k (or 64k) buffers for
> >> each recvmsg.
> > 
> > IFLA_VF_LIST is by far the biggest thing I have seen so far. I don't
> > remember exact numbers but the issue with 32KB buffer (for the whole
> > RTM_NELINK message) was encountered by some of our customers with NICs
> > having 120 or 128 VFs.
> > 
> > There is a bigger issue with IFLA_VFINFO_LIST, though, as it's an
> > attribute so that netlink limits its size to 64 KB. IIRC with current
> > size of IFLA_VF_INFO this would be reached with 270-280 VFs (I'm sure
> > the number was higer than 256 but not too much higher.)

Using netdevsim, 'ip link show' becomes unusable after enabling more
than 244 VFs. I guess it depends on how much info per VF is available.

> > This would mean unless we let something else grow too much, the whole
> > message shouldn't get much bigger than 64 KB. And if we can find some
> > other solution (e.g. passing VF information in separate messages if
> > client declares support), even 32 KB would be more than enough.
> 
> That's what I was asking, thanks. So 32kB today is sufficient, 64kB has
> future buffer. So this whole PEEK and allocate the message size is
> overkill. It could just as easily been bumped from 32kB to 64kB in the
> original patch and been good for a while.

Yes, I think the real problem is how VF-related messages are structured
currently.

Cheers, Phil

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-14 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-13  1:58 [PATCH iproute2] lib/libnetlink: ensure a minimum of 32KB for the buffer used in rtnl_recvmsg() Eric Dumazet
2019-02-13  2:04 ` David Ahern
2019-02-13  2:08   ` Eric Dumazet
2019-02-13  6:20     ` Hangbin Liu
2019-02-14 13:51       ` Michal Kubecek
2019-02-14 13:49   ` Michal Kubecek
2019-02-14 17:34     ` David Ahern
2019-02-14 17:47       ` Phil Sutter [this message]
2023-05-29 12:29   ` Gal Pressman
2023-05-31 21:51     ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-06-04 13:33       ` Gal Pressman
2023-06-04 16:03         ` David Ahern
2023-06-05  7:24           ` Gal Pressman
2019-02-13 17:46 ` Phil Sutter
2019-02-13 17:58   ` Eric Dumazet
2019-02-13 21:57 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-02-13 21:59   ` Eric Dumazet

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