From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
will.deacon@arm.com,
Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
Changbin Du <changbin.du@gmail.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
daniel@iogearbox.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2 v2] kprobe: Do not use uaccess functions to access kernel memory that can fault
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 10:24:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190226152447.GA99670@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190222192703.epvgxghwybte7gxs@ast-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com>
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:27:05AM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 09:43:14AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > Then we should still probably fix up "__probe_kernel_read()" to not
> > allow user accesses. The easiest way to do that is actually likely to
> > use the "unsafe_get_user()" functions *without* doing a
> > uaccess_begin(), which will mean that modern CPU's will simply fault
> > on a kernel access to user space.
>
> On bpf side the bpf_probe_read() helper just calls probe_kernel_read()
> and users pass both user and kernel addresses into it and expect
> that the helper will actually try to read from that address.
Slightly related and FWIW, BCC's eBPF-based opensnoop tool [1] installs a
kprobe on do_sys_open to monitor calls to the open syscall globally.
do_sys_open() has prototype:
long do_sys_open(int dfd, const char __user *filename, int flags, umode_t mode);
This causes a "blank" filename to be displayed by opensnoop when I run it on
my Pixel 3 (arm64), possibly because this is a user pointer. However, it
works fine on x86-64.
So it seems to me that on arm64, reading user pointers directly still doesn't
work even if there is a distinction between user/kernel addresses. In that
case reading the user pointer using user accessors (possibly using
bpf_probe_user_read helper) should be needed to fix this issue (as Yonghong
also privately discussed with me).
[1] https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/blob/master/tools/opensnoop.py#L140
thanks!
- Joel
>
> If __probe_kernel_read will suddenly start failing on all user addresses
> it will break the expectations.
> How do we solve it in bpf_probe_read?
> Call probe_kernel_read and if that fails call unsafe_get_user byte-by-byte
> in the loop?
> That's doable, but people already complain that bpf_probe_read() is slow
> and shows up in their perf report.
>
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2019-02-22 19:27 ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] kprobe: Do not use uaccess functions to access kernel memory that can fault Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-22 19:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-22 19:34 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-22 19:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-22 19:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-22 21:43 ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 22:08 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 22:17 ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 22:21 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 22:39 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 23:02 ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 23:22 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 23:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-23 0:03 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-23 0:15 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-24 19:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-25 13:36 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-22 21:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 21:38 ` David Miller
2019-02-22 21:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 22:51 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-22 23:11 ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 23:16 ` David Miller
2019-02-22 23:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 23:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-23 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-23 2:28 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-23 2:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-23 3:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-23 4:51 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-26 3:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-02-26 15:24 ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2019-02-28 12:29 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-28 15:18 ` Joel Fernandes
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