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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>
Cc: si-wei liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com>,
	"Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	Siwei Liu <loseweigh@gmail.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	virtio-dev <virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"Brandeburg, Jesse" <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	liran.alon@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: net_failover slave udev renaming (was Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v6 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event handling code to use the bypass framework)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 23:47:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190227233812-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190227175218.736e13b6@cakuba.netronome.com>

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 05:52:18PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 20:26:02 -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 04:52:05PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:41:32 -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:  
> > > > > As this scheme adds much complexity to the kernel naming convention
> > > > > (currently it's just ethX names) that no userspace can understand.    
> > > > 
> > > > Anything that pokes at slaves needs to be specially designed anyway.
> > > > Naming seems like a minor issue.  
> > > 
> > > Can the users who care about the naming put net_failover into
> > > "user space will do the bond enslavement" mode, and do the bond
> > > creation/management themselves from user space (in systemd/ 
> > > Network Manager) based on the failover flag?  
> > 
> > Putting issues of compatibility aside (userspace tends to be confused if
> > you give it two devices with same MAC), how would you have it work in
> > practice? Timer based hacks like netvsc where if userspace didn't
> > respond within X seconds we assume it won't and do everything ourselves?
> 
> Well, what I'm saying is basically if user space knows how to deal with
> the auto-bonding, we can put aside net_failover for the most part.  It
> can either be blacklisted or it can have some knob which will
> effectively disable the auto-enslavement.

OK I guess we could add a module parameter to skip this.
Is this what you mean?

> Auto-bonding capable user space can do the renames, spawn the bond,
> etc. all by itself.  I'm basically going back to my initial proposal
> here :)  There is a RedHat bugzilla for the NetworkManager team to do
> this, but we merged net_failover before those folks got around to
> implementing it.

In particular because there's no policy involved whatsoever
here so it's just mechanism being pushed up to userspace.

> IOW if NM/systemd is capable of doing the auto-bonding itself it can
> disable the kernel mechanism and take care of it all.  If kernel is
> booted with an old user space which doesn't have capable NM/systemd -
> net_failover will kick in and do its best.

Sure - it's just 2 lines of code, see below.

Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>

But I don't intend to bother until there's actual interest from
userspace developers to bother. In particular it is not just NM/systemd
even on Fedora - e.g. you will need to teach dracut to somehow detect
and handle this - right now it gets confused if there are two devices
with same MAC addresses.

diff --git a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
index 955b3e76eb8d..dd2b2c370003 100644
--- a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
+++ b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
@@ -43,6 +43,7 @@ static bool csum = true, gso = true, napi_tx;
 module_param(csum, bool, 0444);
 module_param(gso, bool, 0444);
 module_param(napi_tx, bool, 0644);
+module_param(disable_failover, bool, 0644);
 
 /* FIXME: MTU in config. */
 #define GOOD_PACKET_LEN (ETH_HLEN + VLAN_HLEN + ETH_DATA_LEN)
@@ -3163,6 +3164,7 @@ static int virtnet_probe(struct virtio_device *vdev)
 	virtnet_init_settings(dev);
 
-	if (virtio_has_feature(vdev, VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY)) {
+	if (virtio_has_feature(vdev, VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY) &&
+		!disable_failover) {
 		vi->failover = net_failover_create(vi->dev);
 		if (IS_ERR(vi->failover)) {
 			err = PTR_ERR(vi->failover);


  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-28  4:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-10 18:59 [RFC PATCH net-next v6 0/4] Enable virtio_net to act as a backup for a passthru device Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 1/4] virtio_net: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_BACKUP feature bit Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 2/4] net: Introduce generic bypass module Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-11 15:51   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-11 19:13     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-18  9:25       ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-18 18:43         ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-18 19:13           ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-18 19:46             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-18 20:32               ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-18 22:46                 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-19  6:35                   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-19  4:08                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-19  7:22                   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 3/4] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use VF datapath when available Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event handling code to use the bypass framework Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 21:26   ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-10 22:56     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-10 23:28     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-10 23:44       ` Siwei Liu
2018-04-10 23:59         ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-11  7:50       ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-11  1:21     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-11  7:53     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-02-22  1:14       ` net_failover slave udev renaming (was Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v6 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event handling code to use the bypass framework) Siwei Liu
2019-02-22  1:39         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-22  3:33           ` [virtio-dev] " si-wei liu
     [not found]             ` <91d4cbb1-be7a-b53c-6b2a-99bef07e7c53@intel.com>
2019-02-22  7:55               ` si-wei liu
2019-02-22 12:58                 ` Rob Miller
2019-02-22 15:14                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-26  0:58                   ` si-wei liu
2019-02-26  1:39                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-02-26  2:05                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-27  0:49                         ` si-wei liu
2019-02-26  2:08                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-27  0:17                       ` si-wei liu
2019-02-27 21:57                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-02-27 22:30                           ` si-wei liu
2019-02-27 22:38                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-27 23:34                           ` si-wei liu
2019-02-27 23:50                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28  0:00                               ` Liran Alon
2019-02-28  0:03                               ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-02-28  0:38                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28  0:38                               ` si-wei liu
2019-02-28  0:41                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28  0:52                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-02-28  1:26                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28  1:52                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-02-28  4:47                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2019-02-28 18:13                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-02-28 19:36                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28 19:56                                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-02-28 20:14                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28 23:31                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01  0:20                                                 ` Siwei Liu
2019-03-01  1:05                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-02  0:30                                                     ` Siwei Liu
2019-02-28  9:32                                   ` si-wei liu
2019-02-28 14:26                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-01  1:30                                       ` si-wei liu
2019-03-01 13:27                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-01 20:55                                           ` si-wei liu

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