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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	will.deacon@arm.com,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	Changbin Du <changbin.du@gmail.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, yhs@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2 v2] kprobe: Do not use uaccess functions to access kernel memory that can fault
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 10:18:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190228151839.GA159251@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190228212913.20079490b3df88d285664a56@kernel.org>

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 09:29:13PM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 10:24:47 -0500
> Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:27:05AM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 09:43:14AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Then we should still probably fix up "__probe_kernel_read()" to not
> > > > allow user accesses. The easiest way to do that is actually likely to
> > > > use the "unsafe_get_user()" functions *without* doing a
> > > > uaccess_begin(), which will mean that modern CPU's will simply fault
> > > > on a kernel access to user space.
> > > 
> > > On bpf side the bpf_probe_read() helper just calls probe_kernel_read()
> > > and users pass both user and kernel addresses into it and expect
> > > that the helper will actually try to read from that address.
> > 
> > Slightly related and FWIW, BCC's eBPF-based opensnoop tool [1] installs a
> > kprobe on do_sys_open to monitor calls to the open syscall globally.
> > 
> > do_sys_open() has prototype:
> > 
> > long do_sys_open(int dfd, const char __user *filename, int flags, umode_t mode);
> > 
> > This causes a "blank" filename to be displayed by opensnoop when I run it on
> > my Pixel 3 (arm64), possibly because this is a user pointer. However, it
> > works fine on x86-64.
> > 
> > So it seems to me that on arm64, reading user pointers directly still doesn't
> > work even if there is a distinction between user/kernel addresses. In that
> > case reading the user pointer using user accessors (possibly using
> > bpf_probe_user_read helper) should be needed to fix this issue (as Yonghong
> > also privately discussed with me).
> 
> OK, it sounds like the same issue. Please add a bpf_user_read() and use it
> for __user pointer.

CC'd Yonghong who said eariler to me he would add it, but I could add it too
if he wants me to.

thanks,

 - Joel


      reply	other threads:[~2019-02-28 15:18 UTC|newest]

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2019-02-22 19:27                   ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] kprobe: Do not use uaccess functions to access kernel memory that can fault Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-22 19:30                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-22 19:34                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-22 19:39                         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-22 19:55                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-22 21:43                           ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 22:08                             ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 22:17                               ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 22:21                                 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 22:39                                   ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 23:02                                     ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 23:22                                       ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 23:59                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-23  0:03                                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-23  0:15                                         ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-24 19:35                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-25 13:36                                         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-22 21:20                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 21:38                       ` David Miller
2019-02-22 21:59                         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 22:51                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-22 23:11                             ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 23:16                               ` David Miller
2019-02-22 23:16                             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 23:56                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-23  0:08                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-23  2:28                                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-23  2:32                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-23  3:02                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-23  4:51                                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-26  3:57                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-02-26 15:24                     ` Joel Fernandes
2019-02-28 12:29                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-28 15:18                         ` Joel Fernandes [this message]

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