From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
davem@davemloft.net, jakub.kicinski@netronome.com,
mlxsw@mellanox.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] longer netdev names proposal
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 13:12:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190628111216.GA2568@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190627122041.18c46daf@hermes.lan>
Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 09:20:41PM CEST, stephen@networkplumber.org wrote:
>On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 20:39:48 +0200
>Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > $ ip li set dev enp3s0 alias "Onboard Ethernet"
>> > # ip link show "Onboard Ethernet"
>> > Device "Onboard Ethernet" does not exist.
>> >
>> > So it does not really appear to be an alias, it is a label. To be
>> > truly useful, it needs to be more than a label, it needs to be a real
>> > alias which you can use.
>>
>> That's exactly what I meant: to be really useful, one should be able to
>> use the alias(es) for setting device options, for adding routes, in
>> netfilter rules etc.
>>
>> Michal
>
>The kernel doesn't enforce uniqueness of alias.
>Also current kernel RTM_GETLINK doesn't do filter by alias (easily fixed).
>
>If it did, then handling it in iproute would be something like:
I think that it is desired for kernel to work with "real alias" as a
handle. Userspace could either pass ifindex, IFLA_NAME or "real alias".
Userspace mapping like you did here might be perhaps okay for iproute2,
but I think that we need something and easy to use for all.
Let's call it "altname". Get would return:
IFLA_NAME eth0
IFLA_ALT_NAME_LIST
IFLA_ALT_NAME eth0
IFLA_ALT_NAME somethingelse
IFLA_ALT_NAME somenamethatisreallylong
then userspace would pass with a request (get/set/del):
IFLA_ALT_NAME eth0/somethingelse/somenamethatisreallylong
or
IFLA_NAME eth0 if it is talking with older kernel
Then following would do exactly the same:
ip link set eth0 addr 11:22:33:44:55:66
ip link set somethingelse addr 11:22:33:44:55:66
ip link set somenamethatisreallylong addr 11:22:33:44:55:66
We would have to figure out the iproute2 iface to add/del altnames:
ip link add eth0 altname somethingelse
ip link del eth0 altname somethingelse
this might be also:
ip link del somethingelse altname somethingelse
How does this sound?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-28 11:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-27 9:43 [RFC] longer netdev names proposal Jiri Pirko
2019-06-27 15:29 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-06-27 16:12 ` Dan Williams
2019-06-27 17:14 ` David Ahern
2019-06-27 18:08 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-06-27 18:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-06-27 18:35 ` Andrew Lunn
2019-06-27 18:39 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-06-27 19:20 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-06-27 19:35 ` Dan Williams
2019-06-28 7:35 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-06-28 11:12 ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2019-06-28 11:42 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-06-28 12:25 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-06-28 13:14 ` Andrew Lunn
2019-06-28 13:55 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-06-28 15:44 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-06-28 15:56 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-06-28 16:27 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-06-28 7:29 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-06-27 17:48 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-06-27 17:56 ` Stephen Hemminger
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