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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Henry Orosco <henry.orosco@intel.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>,
	"Saleem, Shiraz" <shiraz.saleem@intel.com>,
	"Kirsher, Jeffrey T" <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com>,
	"dledford@redhat.com" <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Ismail, Mustafa" <mustafa.ismail@intel.com>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"nhorman@redhat.com" <nhorman@redhat.com>,
	"sassmann@redhat.com" <sassmann@redhat.com>,
	"poswald@suse.com" <poswald@suse.com>,
	"Ertman, David M" <david.m.ertman@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [rdma 14/16] RDMA/irdma: Add ABI definitions
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:25:59 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190710052559.GD7034@mtr-leonro.mtl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190709205613.GA7440@horosco-MOBL2.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 03:56:13PM -0500, Henry Orosco wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 02:13:39PM +0000, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 06, 2019 at 04:15:20PM +0000, Saleem, Shiraz wrote:
> > > > Subject: Re: [rdma 14/16] RDMA/irdma: Add ABI definitions
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 04:42:19PM +0000, Saleem, Shiraz wrote:
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [rdma 14/16] RDMA/irdma: Add ABI definitions
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 10:40:21AM +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 07:12:57PM -0700, Jeff Kirsher wrote:
> > > > > > > > From: Mustafa Ismail <mustafa.ismail@intel.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Add ABI definitions for irdma.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Mustafa Ismail <mustafa.ismail@intel.com>
> > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Shiraz Saleem <shiraz.saleem@intel.com>
> > > > > > > > include/uapi/rdma/irdma-abi.h | 130
> > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > >  1 file changed, 130 insertions(+)  create mode 100644
> > > > > > > > include/uapi/rdma/irdma-abi.h
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > diff --git a/include/uapi/rdma/irdma-abi.h
> > > > > > > > b/include/uapi/rdma/irdma-abi.h new file mode 100644 index
> > > > > > > > 000000000000..bdfbda4c829e
> > > > > > > > +++ b/include/uapi/rdma/irdma-abi.h
> > > > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,130 @@
> > > > > > > > +/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause */
> > > > > > > > +/* Copyright (c) 2006 - 2019 Intel Corporation.  All rights reserved.
> > > > > > > > + * Copyright (c) 2005 Topspin Communications.  All rights reserved.
> > > > > > > > + * Copyright (c) 2005 Cisco Systems.  All rights reserved.
> > > > > > > > + * Copyright (c) 2005 Open Grid Computing, Inc. All rights reserved.
> > > > > > > > + */
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +#ifndef IRDMA_ABI_H
> > > > > > > > +#define IRDMA_ABI_H
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +#include <linux/types.h>
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +/* irdma must support legacy GEN_1 i40iw kernel
> > > > > > > > + * and user-space whose last ABI ver is 5  */ #define
> > > > > > > > +IRDMA_ABI_VER
> > > > > > > > +6
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you please elaborate about it more?
> > > > > > > There is no irdma code in RDMA yet, so it makes me wonder why new
> > > > > > > define shouldn't start from 1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is because they are ABI compatible with the current user space,
> > > > > > which raises the question why we even have this confusing header file..
> > > > >
> > > > > It is because we need to support current providers/i40iw user-space.
> > > > > Our user-space patch series will introduce a new provider (irdma)
> > > > > whose ABI ver. is also 6 (capable of supporting X722 and which will
> > > > > work with i40iw driver on older kernels) and removes providers/i40iw from rdma-
> > > > core.
> > > >
> > > > Why on earth would we do that?
> > > >
> > > A unified library providers/irdma to go in hand with the driver irdma and uses the ABI header.
> > > It can support the new network device e810 and existing x722 iWARP device. It obsoletes
> > > providers/i40iw and extends its ABI. So why keep providers/i40iw around in rdma-core?
> >
> > Why rewrite a perfectly good userspace that is compatible with the
> > future and past kernels?
> >
> > Is there something so wrong with the userspace provider to need this?
> >
>
> Yes, the issue is that providers/i40iw was never designed to work with a unified driver
> which supports multiple hardware generations.

Do you plan to remove i40iw from kernel immediately after your irdma will be merged?

Thanks

>
> Henry

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-10  5:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-04  2:12 [rdma 00/16] Intel RDMA Diver Updates 2019-07-03 Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 1/1] RDMA/irdma: Add Kconfig and Makefile Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04 12:18   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 01/16] RDMA/irdma: Add driver framework definitions Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 02/16] RDMA/irdma: Implement device initialization definitions Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 03/16] RDMA/irdma: Implement HW Admin Queue OPs Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 04/16] RDMA/irdma: Add HMC backing store setup functions Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 05/16] RDMA/irdma: Add privileged UDA queue implementation Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 06/16] RDMA/irdma: Add QoS definitions Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 07/16] RDMA/irdma: Add connection manager Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 08/16] RDMA/irdma: Add PBLE resource manager Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 09/16] RDMA/irdma: Implement device supported verb APIs Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 10/16] RDMA/irdma: Add RoCEv2 UD OP support Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 11/16] RDMA/irdma: Add user/kernel shared libraries Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 12/16] RDMA/irdma: Add miscellaneous utility definitions Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 13/16] RDMA/irdma: Add dynamic tracing for CM Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 14/16] RDMA/irdma: Add ABI definitions Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  7:40   ` Leon Romanovsky
2019-07-04 12:19     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-05 16:42       ` Saleem, Shiraz
2019-07-05 17:16         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-06 16:15           ` Saleem, Shiraz
2019-07-08 14:13             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-09 20:56               ` Henry Orosco
2019-07-10  5:25                 ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2019-07-10 13:32                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 15/16] RDMA/irdma: Update MAINTAINERS file Jeff Kirsher
2019-07-04  2:12 ` [rdma 16/16] RDMA/irdma: Add Kconfig and Makefile Jeff Kirsher

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