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From: Zahari Doychev <zahari.doychev@linux.com>
To: Toshiaki Makita <toshiaki.makita1@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, makita.toshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp,
	jiri@resnulli.us, nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com,
	simon.horman@netronome.com, roopa@cumulusnetworks.com,
	bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, jhs@mojatatu.com,
	dsahern@gmail.com, xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com,
	johannes@sipsolutions.net, alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Bridge] [PATCH v3 1/2] net: bridge: use mac_len in bridge forwarding
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 16:32:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190904143227.5jpn2gnu3fed55wg@tycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a9a093f2-1ec6-339c-b015-eb658618cf2b@gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 04:14:28PM +0900, Toshiaki Makita wrote:
> On 2019/09/03 22:36, Zahari Doychev wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 08:37:36PM +0900, Toshiaki Makita wrote:
> > > Hi Zahari,
> > > 
> > > Sorry for reviewing this late.
> > > 
> > > On 2019/09/03 3:09, Zahari Doychev wrote:
> > > ...
> > > > @@ -466,13 +466,14 @@ static bool __allowed_ingress(const struct net_bridge *br,
> > > >    		/* Tagged frame */
> > > >    		if (skb->vlan_proto != br->vlan_proto) {
> > > >    			/* Protocol-mismatch, empty out vlan_tci for new tag */
> > > > -			skb_push(skb, ETH_HLEN);
> > > > +			skb_push(skb, skb->mac_len);
> > > >    			skb = vlan_insert_tag_set_proto(skb, skb->vlan_proto,
> > > >    							skb_vlan_tag_get(skb));
> > > 
> > > I think we should insert vlan at skb->data, i.e. mac_header + mac_len, while this
> > > function inserts the tag at mac_header + ETH_HLEN which is not always the correct
> > > offset.
> > 
> > Maybe I am misunderstanding the concern here but this should make sure that
> > the VLAN tag from the skb is move back in the payload as the outer most tag.
> > So it should follow the ethernet header. It looks like this e.g.,:
> > 
> > VLAN1 in skb:
> > +------+------+-------+
> > | DMAC | SMAC | ETYPE |
> > +------+------+-------+
> > 
> > VLAN1 moved to payload:
> > +------+------+-------+-------+
> > | DMAC | SMAC | VLAN1 | ETYPE |
> > +------+------+-------+-------+
> > 
> > VLAN2 in skb:
> > +------+------+-------+-------+
> > | DMAC | SMAC | VLAN1 | ETYPE |
> > +------+------+-------+-------+
> > 
> > VLAN2 moved to payload:
> > 
> > +------+------+-------+-------+
> > | DMAC | SMAC | VLAN2 | VLAN1 | ....
> > +------+------+-------+-------+
> > 
> > Doing the skb push with mac_len makes sure that VLAN tag is inserted in the
> > correct offset. For mac_len == ETH_HLEN this does not change the current
> > behaviour.
> 
> Reordering VLAN headers here does not look correct to me. If skb->data points to ETH+VLAN,
> then we should insert the vlan at the offset.
> Vlan devices with reorder_hdr disabled produce packets whose mac_len includes ETH+VLAN header,
> and they expects vlan insertion after the outer vlan header.

I see so in this case we should handle differently as it seems sometimes
we have to insert after or before the tag in the packet. I am not quite sure
if this is possible to be detected here. I was trying to do bridging with VLAN
devices with reorder_hdr disabled working but somehow I was not able to get
mac_len longer then ETH_HLEN in all cases that I tried. Can you provide some
example how can I try this out? It will really help me to understand the
problem better.

> 
> Also I'm not sure there is standard ethernet header in mac_len, as mac_len is not ETH_HLEN.
> E.g. tun devices can produce vlan packets without ehternet header.

How is the bridge forwarding decision done in this case when there are no
MAC addresses, vlan based only?

> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > >    			if (unlikely(!skb))
> > > >    				return false;
> > > >    			skb_pull(skb, ETH_HLEN);
> > > 
> > > Now skb->data is mac_header + ETH_HLEN which would be broken when mac_len is not
> > > ETH_HLEN?
> > 
> > I thought it would be better to point in this case to the outer tag as otherwise
> > if mac_len is used the skb->data will point to the next tag which I find somehow
> > inconsistent or do you see some case where this can cause problems?
> 
> Vlan devices with reorder_hdr off will break because it relies on skb->data offset
> as I described in the previous discussion.

I also see in vlan_do_receive that the VLAN tag is moved to the payload when
reorder_hdr is off and the vlan_dev is not a bridge port. So it seems that
I am misunderstanding the reorder_hdr option so if you can give me some more
details about how it is supposed to be used will be highly appreciated.

Thanks
Zahari

> 
> Toshiaki Makita

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-04 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-02 18:09 [PATCH v3 1/2] net: bridge: use mac_len in bridge forwarding Zahari Doychev
2019-09-02 18:10 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] selftests: forwrading: tc vlan bridge test Zahari Doychev
2019-09-03 11:37 ` [Bridge] [PATCH v3 1/2] net: bridge: use mac_len in bridge forwarding Toshiaki Makita
2019-09-03 13:36   ` Zahari Doychev
2019-09-04  7:14     ` Toshiaki Makita
2019-09-04 14:32       ` Zahari Doychev [this message]
2019-09-05 11:20         ` Toshiaki Makita

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