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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 0/7] mdev based hardware virtio offloading support
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 10:43:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191017094341.GF23557@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba81e603-cb7d-b152-8fae-97f070a7e460@redhat.com>

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On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 09:42:53AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> On 2019/10/15 下午10:37, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:37:17AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > On 2019/10/15 上午1:49, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 04:15:50PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > There are hardware that can do virtio datapath offloading while having
> > > > > its own control path. This path tries to implement a mdev based
> > > > > unified API to support using kernel virtio driver to drive those
> > > > > devices. This is done by introducing a new mdev transport for virtio
> > > > > (virtio_mdev) and register itself as a new kind of mdev driver. Then
> > > > > it provides a unified way for kernel virtio driver to talk with mdev
> > > > > device implementation.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Though the series only contains kernel driver support, the goal is to
> > > > > make the transport generic enough to support userspace drivers. This
> > > > > means vhost-mdev[1] could be built on top as well by resuing the
> > > > > transport.
> > > > > 
> > > > > A sample driver is also implemented which simulate a virito-net
> > > > > loopback ethernet device on top of vringh + workqueue. This could be
> > > > > used as a reference implementation for real hardware driver.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Consider mdev framework only support VFIO device and driver right now,
> > > > > this series also extend it to support other types. This is done
> > > > > through introducing class id to the device and pairing it with
> > > > > id_talbe claimed by the driver. On top, this seris also decouple
> > > > > device specific parents ops out of the common ones.
> > > > I was curious so I took a quick look and posted comments.
> > > > 
> > > > I guess this driver runs inside the guest since it registers virtio
> > > > devices?
> > > 
> > > It could run in either guest or host. But the main focus is to run in the
> > > host then we can use virtio drivers in containers.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > If this is used with physical PCI devices that support datapath
> > > > offloading then how are physical devices presented to the guest without
> > > > SR-IOV?
> > > 
> > > We will do control path meditation through vhost-mdev[1] and vhost-vfio[2].
> > > Then we will present a full virtio compatible ethernet device for guest.
> > > 
> > > SR-IOV is not a must, any mdev device that implements the API defined in
> > > patch 5 can be used by this framework.
> > What I'm trying to understand is: if you want to present a virtio-pci
> > device to the guest (e.g. using vhost-mdev or vhost-vfio), then how is
> > that related to this patch series?
> 
> 
> This series introduce some infrastructure that would be used by vhost-mdev:
> 
> 1) allow new type of mdev devices/drivers other than vfio (through class_id
> and device ops)
> 
> 2) a set of virtio specific callbacks that will be used by both vhost-mdev
> and virtio-mdev defined in patch 5
> 
> Then vhost-mdev can be implemented on top: a new mdev class id but reuse the
> callback defined in 2. Through this way the parent can provides a single set
> of callbacks (device ops) for both kernel virtio driver (through
> virtio-mdev) or userspace virtio driver (through vhost-mdev).

Okay, thanks for explaining!

Stefan

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      reply	other threads:[~2019-10-17  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-11  8:15 [PATCH V3 0/7] mdev based hardware virtio offloading support Jason Wang
2019-10-11  8:15 ` [PATCH V3 1/7] mdev: class id support Jason Wang
2019-10-15 10:26   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-10-15 12:12     ` Jason Wang
2019-10-15 16:38   ` Alex Williamson
2019-10-16  4:38     ` Jason Wang
2019-10-16  4:57   ` Parav Pandit
2019-10-16 10:37     ` Jason Wang
2019-10-17  8:27     ` Jason Wang
2019-10-11  8:15 ` [PATCH V3 2/7] mdev: bus uevent support Jason Wang
2019-10-15 10:27   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-10-15 12:13     ` Jason Wang
2019-10-16  5:06   ` Parav Pandit
2019-10-11  8:15 ` [PATCH V3 3/7] modpost: add support for mdev class id Jason Wang
2019-10-11  8:15 ` [PATCH V3 4/7] mdev: introduce device specific ops Jason Wang
2019-10-15 10:41   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-10-15 12:17     ` Jason Wang
2019-10-15 17:26       ` Alex Williamson
2019-10-11  8:15 ` [PATCH V3 5/7] mdev: introduce virtio device and its device ops Jason Wang
2019-10-14 17:23   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-15  3:27     ` Jason Wang
2019-10-11  8:15 ` [PATCH V3 6/7] virtio: introduce a mdev based transport Jason Wang
2019-10-14 17:39   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-15  3:29     ` Jason Wang
2019-10-11  8:15 ` [PATCH V3 7/7] docs: sample driver to demonstrate how to implement virtio-mdev framework Jason Wang
2019-10-14 17:49 ` [PATCH V3 0/7] mdev based hardware virtio offloading support Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-15  3:37   ` Jason Wang
2019-10-15 14:37     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-17  1:42       ` Jason Wang
2019-10-17  9:43         ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]

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