From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: mst@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:52:32 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200214135232.GB4271@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b3e6a9c-8bfd-fb3c-12a8-2d6a3879f1ae@redhat.com>
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:23:27AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > Though all vDPA devices have the same programming interface, but the
> > > semantic is different. So it looks to me that use bus complies what
> > > class.rst said:
> > >
> > > "
> > >
> > > Each device class defines a set of semantics and a programming interface
> > > that devices of that class adhere to. Device drivers are the
> > > implementation of that programming interface for a particular device on
> > > a particular bus.
> > >
> > > "
> > Here we are talking about the /dev/XX node that provides the
> > programming interface.
>
>
> I'm confused here, are you suggesting to use class to create char device in
> vhost-vdpa? That's fine but the comment should go for vhost-vdpa patch.
Certainly yes, something creating many char devs should have a
class. That makes the sysfs work as expected
I suppose this is vhost user? I admit I don't really see how this
vhost stuff works, all I see are global misc devices? Very unusual for
a new subsystem to be using global misc devices..
I would have expected that a single VDPA device comes out as a single
char dev linked to only that VDPA device.
> > All the vdpa devices have the same basic
> > chardev interface and discover any semantic variations 'in band'
>
> That's not true, char interface is only used for vhost. Kernel virtio driver
> does not need char dev but a device on the virtio bus.
Okay, this is fine, but why do you need two busses to accomplish this?
Shouldn't the 'struct virito_device' be the plug in point for HW
drivers I was talking about - and from there a vhost-user can connect
to the struct virtio_device to give it a char dev or a kernel driver
can connect to link it to another subsystem?
It is easy to see something is going wrong with this design because
the drivers/virtio/virtio_vdpa.c mainly contains a bunch of trampoline
functions reflecting identical calls from one ops struct to a
different ops struct. This suggests the 'vdpa' is some subclass of
'virtio' and it is possibly better to model it by extending 'struct
virito_device' to include the vdpa specific stuff.
Where does the vhost-user char dev get invovled in with the v2 series?
Is that included?
> > Every class of virtio traffic is going to need a special HW driver to
> > enable VDPA, that special driver can create the correct vhost side
> > class device.
>
> Are you saying, e.g it's the charge of IFCVF driver to create vhost char dev
> and other stuffs?
No.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-14 13:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-10 3:56 [PATCH V2 0/5] vDPA support Jason Wang
2020-02-10 3:56 ` [PATCH V2 1/5] vhost: factor out IOTLB Jason Wang
2020-02-10 3:56 ` [PATCH V2 2/5] vringh: IOTLB support Jason Wang
2020-02-10 3:56 ` [PATCH V2 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus Jason Wang
2020-02-11 13:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-12 7:55 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-12 12:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-13 3:34 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-13 13:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-13 14:58 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-13 15:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-13 15:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-13 15:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-13 15:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-13 16:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-14 4:05 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-14 14:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-17 6:07 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-13 15:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-13 16:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-14 4:39 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-14 3:23 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-14 13:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-02-17 6:08 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-18 13:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-19 2:59 ` Tiwei Bie
2020-02-19 5:35 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-19 12:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-10 3:56 ` [PATCH V2 4/5] virtio: introduce a vDPA based transport Jason Wang
2020-02-10 13:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-11 3:04 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-10 3:56 ` [PATCH V2 5/5] vdpasim: vDPA device simulator Jason Wang
2020-02-10 11:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-11 3:12 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-11 13:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-12 8:27 ` Jason Wang
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