From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: David Ahern <dahern@digitalocean.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: virtio_net: can change MTU after installing program
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 11:56:18 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200226115541-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c8f874c6-3271-6bd1-f3b9-4d0b0786cd52@digitalocean.com>
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 09:08:57AM -0700, David Ahern wrote:
> On 2/26/20 12:07 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >
> > Well the reason XDP wants to limit MTU is this:
> > the MTU must be less than a page
> > size to avoid having to handle XDP across multiple pages
> >
> > however device mtu basically comes from dhcp.
>
> Not necessarily.
>
> > it is assumed that whoever configured it knew
> > what he's doing and configured mtu to match
> > what's going on on the underlying backend.
> > So we are trusting the user already.
> >
> > But yes, one can configure mtu later and then it's too late
> > as xdp was attached.
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> The simple solution is:
> >>
> >> @@ -2489,6 +2495,8 @@ static int virtnet_xdp_set(struct net_device *dev,
> >> struct bpf_prog *prog,
> >> }
> >> }
> >>
> >> + dev->max_mtu = prog ? max_sz : MAX_MTU;
> >> +
> >> return 0;
> >>
> >> err:
> >
> >
> > Well max MTU comes from the device ATM and supplies the limit
> > of the underlying backend. Why is it OK to set it to MAX_MTU?
> > That's just asking for trouble IMHO, traffic will not
> > be packetized properly.
>
> I grabbed that from virtnet_probe() for sake of this discussion:
>
> /* MTU range: 68 - 65535 */
> dev->min_mtu = MIN_MTU;
> dev->max_mtu = MAX_MTU;
>
> but yes I see the MTU probe now, so I guess that could be used instead
> of MAX_MTU.
>
> >
> >
> >> The complicated solution is to implement ndo_change_mtu.
> >>
> >> The simple solution causes a user visible change with 'ip -d li sh' by
> >> showing a changing max mtu, but the ndo has a poor user experience in
> >> that it just fails EINVAL (their is no extack) which is confusing since,
> >> for example, 8192 is a totally legit MTU. Changing the max does return a
> >> nice extack message.
> >
> > Just fail with EBUSY instead?
> >
>
> consistency. If other change_mtu functions fail EINVAL, then virtio net
> needs to follow suit.
Maybe we should change them all to EBUSY - that's not too hard ...
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-26 16:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-26 9:33 Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 3:32 ` virtio_net: can change MTU after installing program David Ahern
2020-02-26 4:02 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26 4:31 ` David Ahern
2020-02-26 5:53 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26 16:04 ` David Ahern
2020-02-26 7:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 7:37 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26 8:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 9:30 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26 9:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 16:08 ` David Ahern
2020-02-26 16:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2020-02-26 9:51 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-26 16:03 ` David Ahern
2020-02-26 16:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 16:58 ` David Ahern
2020-02-26 17:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-27 1:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-27 8:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-27 17:16 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-27 19:26 ` Michael Chan
2020-02-27 19:45 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-27 21:37 ` David Ahern
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