From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: "Maciej Żenczykowski" <zenczykowski@gmail.com>
Cc: "Maciej Żenczykowski" <maze@google.com>,
"Florian Westphal" <fw@strlen.de>,
"Linux Network Development Mailing List" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"Netfilter Development Mailing List"
<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Manoj Basapathi" <manojbm@codeaurora.org>,
"Subash Abhinov Kasiviswanathan" <subashab@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] netfilter: IDLETIMER target v1 - match Android layout
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:39:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200331163904.ilucynm3brvgfezw@salvia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200331163559.132240-1-zenczykowski@gmail.com>
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 09:35:59AM -0700, Maciej Żenczykowski wrote:
> From: Maciej Żenczykowski <maze@google.com>
>
> Android has long had an extension to IDLETIMER to send netlink
> messages to userspace, see:
> https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/common/+/refs/heads/android-mainline/include/uapi/linux/netfilter/xt_IDLETIMER.h#42
> Note: this is idletimer target rev 1, there is no rev 0 in
> the Android common kernel sources, see registration at:
> https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/common/+/refs/heads/android-mainline/net/netfilter/xt_IDLETIMER.c#483
>
> When we compare that to upstream's new idletimer target rev 1:
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/pablo/nf-next.git/tree/include/uapi/linux/netfilter/xt_IDLETIMER.h#n46
>
> We immediately notice that these two rev 1 structs are the
> same size and layout, and that while timer_type and send_nl_msg
> are differently named and serve a different purpose, they're
> at the same offset.
>
> This makes them impossible to tell apart - and thus one cannot
> know in a mixed Android/vanilla environment whether one means
> timer_type or send_nl_msg.
>
> Since this is iptables/netfilter uapi it introduces a problem
> between iptables (vanilla vs Android) userspace and kernel
> (vanilla vs Android) if the two don't match each other.
>
> Additionally when at some point in the future Android picks up
> 5.7+ it's not at all clear how to resolve the resulting merge
> conflict.
>
> Furthermore, since upgrading the kernel on old Android phones
> is pretty much impossible there does not seem to be an easy way
> out of this predicament.
>
> The only thing I've been able to come up with is some super
> disgusting kernel version >= 5.7 check in the iptables binary
> to flip between different struct layouts.
>
> By adding a dummy field to the vanilla Linux kernel header file
> we can force the two structs to be compatible with each other.
>
> Long term I think I would like to deprecate send_nl_msg out of
> Android entirely, but I haven't quite been able to figure out
> exactly how we depend on it. It seems to be very similar to
> sysfs notifications but with some extra info.
>
> Currently it's actually always enabled whenever Android uses
> the IDLETIMER target, so we could also probably entirely
> remove it from the uapi in favour of just always enabling it,
> but again we can't upgrade old kernels already in the field.
>
> (Also note that this doesn't change the structure's size,
> as it is simply fitting into the pre-existing padding, and
> that since 5.7 hasn't been released yet, there's still time
> to make this uapi visible change)
>
> Cc: Manoj Basapathi <manojbm@codeaurora.org>
> Cc: Subash Abhinov Kasiviswanathan <subashab@codeaurora.org>
> Cc: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
> Signed-off-by: Maciej Żenczykowski <maze@google.com>
> ---
> include/uapi/linux/netfilter/xt_IDLETIMER.h | 1 +
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>
> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/netfilter/xt_IDLETIMER.h b/include/uapi/linux/netfilter/xt_IDLETIMER.h
> index 434e6506abaa..49ddcdc61c09 100644
> --- a/include/uapi/linux/netfilter/xt_IDLETIMER.h
> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/netfilter/xt_IDLETIMER.h
> @@ -48,6 +48,7 @@ struct idletimer_tg_info_v1 {
>
> char label[MAX_IDLETIMER_LABEL_SIZE];
>
> + __u8 send_nl_msg; /* unused: for compatibility with Android */
Please, add client code for this send_nl_msg field.
Thank you.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-31 16:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-31 16:35 [PATCH] netfilter: IDLETIMER target v1 - match Android layout Maciej Żenczykowski
2020-03-31 16:39 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2020-03-31 16:41 ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2020-03-31 18:13 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-03-31 18:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2020-03-31 18:16 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-03-31 21:21 ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2020-03-31 23:28 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-04-01 1:09 ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2020-04-01 7:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2020-04-05 20:05 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-04-05 20:14 ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2020-04-05 20:27 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
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