From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 0/6] Regressions for "imply" behavior change
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 19:42:24 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200408224224.GD11886@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a2frDf4BzEpEF0uwPTV2dv6Jve+6N97z1sSuSBUAPJquA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 10:49:48PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 10:38 PM Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 8 Apr 2020, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > I have created workarounds for the Kconfig files, which now stop using
> > > imply and do something else in each case. I don't know whether there was
> > > a bug in the kconfig changes that has led to allowing configurations that
> > > were not meant to be legal even with the new semantics, or if the Kconfig
> > > files have simply become incorrect now and the tool works as expected.
> >
> > In most cases it is the code that has to be fixed. It typically does:
> >
> > if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_FOO))
> > foo_init();
> >
> > Where it should rather do:
> >
> > if (IS_REACHABLE(CONFIG_FOO))
> > foo_init();
> >
> > A couple of such patches have been produced and queued in their
> > respective trees already.
>
> I try to use IS_REACHABLE() only as a last resort, as it tends to
> confuse users when a subsystem is built as a module and already
> loaded but something relying on that subsystem does not use it.
>
> In the six patches I made, I had to use IS_REACHABLE() once,
> for the others I tended to use a Kconfig dependency like
>
> 'depends on FOO || FOO=n'
It is unfortunate kconfig doesn't have a language feature for this
idiom, as the above is confounding without a lot of kconfig knowledge
> I did come up with the IS_REACHABLE() macro originally, but that
> doesn't mean I think it's a good idea to use it liberally ;-)
It would be nice to have some uniform policy here
I also don't like the IS_REACHABLE solution, it makes this more
complicated, not less..
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-08 22:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-08 20:27 [RFC 0/6] Regressions for "imply" behavior change Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27 ` [RFC 1/6] thunder: select PTP driver if possible Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27 ` [RFC 2/6] net/mlx5e: fix VXLAN dependency Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27 ` [RFC 3/6] LiquidIO VF: add dependency for PTP_1588_CLOCK Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27 ` [RFC 4/6] drm/bridge/sii8620: fix extcon dependency Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-10 6:56 ` Andrzej Hajda
2020-04-14 15:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 15:37 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-15 6:58 ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-08 20:27 ` [RFC 5/6] drm/rcar-du: fix selection of CMM driver Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 20:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-04-14 20:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 20:51 ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-04-14 21:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-15 14:13 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-04-15 15:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-15 19:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-15 21:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-04-15 21:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-16 6:51 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-16 15:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-04-08 20:27 ` [RFC 6/6] drm/rcar-du: fix lvds dependency Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:38 ` [RFC 0/6] Regressions for "imply" behavior change Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-08 20:46 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-08 20:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 21:17 ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-08 22:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-04-09 8:41 ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-10 2:40 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-10 7:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-04-10 17:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-10 19:04 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-14 13:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-14 14:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 15:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-14 15:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 17:49 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-14 18:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-16 3:25 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-16 7:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-16 10:17 ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-16 12:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-16 14:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-16 15:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-16 18:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-16 18:38 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-16 15:12 ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-16 18:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-16 19:56 ` Andrzej Hajda
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