From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
Cc: Petr Machata <petrm@mellanox.com>,
Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>,
Ido Schimmel <idosch@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next 0/3] TC: Introduce qevents
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 15:40:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200601134023.GQ2282@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM_iQpW8NcZy=ayJ49iY-pCix+HFusTfoOpoD_oMOR6+LeGy1g@mail.gmail.com>
Wed, May 27, 2020 at 06:09:03AM CEST, xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com wrote:
>On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:11 AM Petr Machata <petrm@mellanox.com> wrote:
>>
>> The Spectrum hardware allows execution of one of several actions as a
>> result of queue management events: tail-dropping, early-dropping, marking a
>> packet, or passing a configured latency threshold or buffer size. Such
>> packets can be mirrored, trapped, or sampled.
>>
>> Modeling the action to be taken as simply a TC action is very attractive,
>> but it is not obvious where to put these actions. At least with ECN marking
>> one could imagine a tree of qdiscs and classifiers that effectively
>> accomplishes this task, albeit in an impractically complex manner. But
>> there is just no way to match on dropped-ness of a packet, let alone
>> dropped-ness due to a particular reason.
>>
>> To allow configuring user-defined actions as a result of inner workings of
>> a qdisc, this patch set introduces a concept of qevents. Those are attach
>> points for TC blocks, where filters can be put that are executed as the
>> packet hits well-defined points in the qdisc algorithms. The attached
>> blocks can be shared, in a manner similar to clsact ingress and egress
>> blocks, arbitrary classifiers with arbitrary actions can be put on them,
>> etc.
>
>This concept does not fit well into qdisc, essentially you still want to
>install filters (and actions) somewhere on qdisc, but currently all filters
>are executed at enqueue, basically you want to execute them at other
>pre-defined locations too, for example early drop.
>
>So, perhaps adding a "position" in tc filter is better? Something like:
>
>tc qdisc add dev x root handle 1: ... # same as before
>tc filter add dev x parent 1:0 position early_drop matchall action....
>
>And obviously default position must be "enqueue". Makes sense?
Well, if you look at the examples in the cover letter, I think that they
are showing something very similar you are talking about:
# tc qdisc add dev eth0 root handle 1: \
red limit 500K avpkt 1K qevent early block 10
# tc filter add block 10 \
matchall action mirred egress mirror dev eth1
The first command just says "early drop position should be processed by
block 10"
The second command just adds a filter to the block 10.
We have this concept of blocks, we use them in "tc filter" as a handle.
The block as a unit could be attached to be processed not only to
"enqueue" but to anything else, like some qdisc stage.
Looks quite neat to me.
>
>(The word "position" may be not accurate, but hope you get my point
>here.)
>
>Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-01 13:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-26 17:10 [RFC PATCH net-next 0/3] TC: Introduce qevents Petr Machata
2020-05-26 17:10 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 1/3] net: sched: Introduce helpers for qevent blocks Petr Machata
2020-05-26 17:10 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 2/3] net: sched: sch_red: Split init and change callbacks Petr Machata
2020-05-26 18:32 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-27 15:23 ` Petr Machata
2020-05-26 17:10 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 3/3] net: sched: sch_red: Add qevents "early" and "mark" Petr Machata
2020-05-26 17:10 ` [RFC PATCH iproute2-next 1/4] uapi: pkt_sched: Add two new RED attributes Petr Machata
2020-05-26 17:10 ` [RFC PATCH iproute2-next 2/4] tc: Add helpers to support qevent parsing Petr Machata
2020-05-26 17:10 ` [RFC PATCH iproute2-next 3/4] man: tc: Describe qevents Petr Machata
2020-05-26 17:10 ` [RFC PATCH iproute2-next 4/4] tc: q_red: Add support for qevents "mark" and "early" Petr Machata
2020-05-27 4:09 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 0/3] TC: Introduce qevents Cong Wang
2020-05-27 9:56 ` Petr Machata
2020-05-28 4:00 ` Cong Wang
2020-05-28 9:48 ` Petr Machata
2020-05-30 4:48 ` Cong Wang
2020-05-30 8:55 ` Petr Machata
2020-06-01 20:01 ` Cong Wang
2020-06-01 13:35 ` Jiri Pirko
2020-06-01 13:40 ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2020-06-01 19:50 ` Cong Wang
2020-06-01 22:37 ` Petr Machata
2020-06-02 6:05 ` Jiri Pirko
2020-06-03 7:05 ` Cong Wang
2020-06-03 10:08 ` Petr Machata
2020-05-27 15:19 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-27 16:25 ` Petr Machata
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