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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: stephen@networkplumber.org, o.rempel@pengutronix.de,
	andrew@lunn.ch, f.fainelli@gmail.com, hkallweit1@gmail.com,
	kuba@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net, mkubecek@suse.cz,
	linville@tuxdriver.com, david@protonic.nl, kernel@pengutronix.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux@armlinux.org.uk, mkl@pengutronix.de, marex@denx.de,
	christian.herber@nxp.com, amitc@mellanox.com, petrm@mellanox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH ethtool v1] netlink: add master/slave configuration support
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 12:29:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202006091222.CB97F743AD@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200609.113633.1866761141966326637.davem@davemloft.net>

On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 11:36:33AM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 10:19:35 -0700
> 
> > Yes, words do matter and convey a lot of implied connotation and
> > meaning.
> 
> What is your long term plan?  Will you change all of the UAPI for
> bonding for example?
> 
> Or will we have a partial solution to the problem?

As a first step, let's stop _adding_ this language.

Given what I've seen from other communities and what I know of the kernel
community, I don't think we're going to get consensus on some massive
global search/replace any time soon. However, I think we can get started
on making this change with just stopping further introductions. (I view
this like any other treewide change: stop new badness from getting
added, and chip away as old ones as we can until it's all gone.)

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-09 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-26  9:10 [PATCH ethtool v1] netlink: add master/slave configuration support Oleksij Rempel
2020-05-26 12:41 ` Michal Kubecek
2020-05-27 10:26   ` Oleksij Rempel
2020-06-07 22:30 ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-06-07 23:45   ` David Miller
2020-06-09 17:19     ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-06-09 18:30       ` Andrew Lunn
2020-06-09 18:36       ` David Miller
2020-06-09 19:29         ` Kees Cook [this message]
2020-06-09 19:34           ` David Miller
2020-06-09 19:49             ` Kees Cook
2020-06-09 20:05               ` David Miller
2020-06-09 20:29                 ` Kees Cook
2020-06-09 20:53                   ` Michal Kubecek
2020-06-09 21:34                     ` Kees Cook
2020-06-09 19:30         ` Williams, Dan J
2020-06-09 19:38           ` David Miller
2020-06-09 21:48             ` Dan Williams
2020-06-10  6:07               ` Oleksij Rempel
2020-06-09 18:46       ` Edward Cree
2020-06-09 20:31       ` Michal Kubecek

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