From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Kurt Kanzenbach <kurt@linutronix.de>
Cc: Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
Kamil Alkhouri <kamil.alkhouri@hs-offenburg.de>,
ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/9] net: dsa: hellcreek: Add PTP clock support
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 15:40:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200619134001.GC304147@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878sgjqx4r.fsf@kurt>
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 10:26:44AM +0200, Kurt Kanzenbach wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> On Thu Jun 18 2020, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> >> +static u64 __hellcreek_ptp_clock_read(struct hellcreek *hellcreek)
> >> +{
> >> + u16 nsl, nsh, secl, secm, sech;
> >> +
> >> + /* Take a snapshot */
> >> + hellcreek_ptp_write(hellcreek, PR_COMMAND_C_SS, PR_COMMAND_C);
> >> +
> >> + /* The time of the day is saved as 96 bits. However, due to hardware
> >> + * limitations the seconds are not or only partly kept in the PTP
> >> + * core. That's why only the nanoseconds are used and the seconds are
> >> + * tracked in software. Anyway due to internal locking all five
> >> + * registers should be read.
> >> + */
> >> + sech = hellcreek_ptp_read(hellcreek, PR_SS_SYNC_DATA_C);
> >> + secm = hellcreek_ptp_read(hellcreek, PR_SS_SYNC_DATA_C);
> >> + secl = hellcreek_ptp_read(hellcreek, PR_SS_SYNC_DATA_C);
> >> + nsh = hellcreek_ptp_read(hellcreek, PR_SS_SYNC_DATA_C);
> >> + nsl = hellcreek_ptp_read(hellcreek, PR_SS_SYNC_DATA_C);
> >> +
> >> + return (u64)nsl | ((u64)nsh << 16);
> >
> > Hi Kurt
> >
> > What are the hardware limitations? There seems to be 48 bits for
> > seconds? That allows for 8925104 years?
>
> In theory, yes. Due to hardware hardware considerations only a few or
> none of these bits are used for the seconds. The rest is zero. Meaning
> that the wraparound is not 8925104 years, but at e.g. 8 seconds when
> using 3 bits for the seconds.
Please add this to the comment.
> >> +static u64 __hellcreek_ptp_gettime(struct hellcreek *hellcreek)
> >> +{
> >> + u64 ns;
> >> +
> >> + ns = __hellcreek_ptp_clock_read(hellcreek);
> >> + if (ns < hellcreek->last_ts)
> >> + hellcreek->seconds++;
> >> + hellcreek->last_ts = ns;
> >> + ns += hellcreek->seconds * NSEC_PER_SEC;
> >
> > So the assumption is, this gets called at least once per second. And
> > if that does not happen, there is no recovery. The second is lost.
>
> Yes, exactly. If a single overflow is missed, then the time is wrong.
>
> >
> > I'm just wondering if there is something more robust using what the
> > hardware does provide, even if the hardware is not perfect.
>
> I don't think there's a more robust way to do this. The overflow period
> is a second which should be enough time to catch the overflow even if
> the system is loaded. We did long running tests for days and the
> mechanism worked fine. We could also consider to move the delayed work
> to a dedicated thread which could be run with real time (SCHED_FIFO)
> priority. But, I didn't see the need for it.
If the hardware does give you 3 working bits for the seconds, you
could make use of that for a consistency check. If nothing else, you
could do a
dev_err(dev, 'PTP time is FUBAR');
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-19 13:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-18 6:40 [RFC PATCH 0/9] Hirschmann Hellcreek DSA driver Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 6:40 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] net: dsa: Add tag handling for Hirschmann Hellcreek switches Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 13:42 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-06-18 6:40 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] net: dsa: Add DSA driver " Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 15:22 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-06-19 8:12 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 6:40 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] net: dsa: hellcreek: Add PTP clock support Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 15:46 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-06-19 8:13 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 17:23 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-06-19 8:26 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-19 13:40 ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2020-06-22 11:52 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-24 13:03 ` Richard Cochran
2020-06-25 7:08 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 6:40 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] net: dsa: hellcreek: Add support for hardware timestamping Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 6:40 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] net: dsa: hellcreek: Add TAPRIO offloading support Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 6:40 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] net: dsa: hellcreek: Add debugging mechanisms Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 17:34 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-06-19 8:36 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-19 13:42 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-06-22 12:32 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-22 13:55 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-06-23 6:07 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-22 14:14 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-06-23 6:04 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 6:40 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] net: dsa: hellcreek: Add PTP status LEDs Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 17:46 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-06-19 8:45 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-19 13:52 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-06-18 6:40 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] dt-bindings: Add vendor prefix for Hirschmann Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 6:40 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] dt-bindings: net: dsa: Add documentation for Hellcreek switches Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 13:47 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-06-19 8:47 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-19 13:56 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-06-22 12:02 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-22 13:49 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-06-23 6:09 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-18 17:40 ` Florian Fainelli
2020-06-19 8:48 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-22 12:05 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-06-26 17:11 ` Florian Fainelli
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