From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425B4C433E0 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1415E2076E for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=networkplumber-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@networkplumber-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="cy15rtYH" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2404147AbgFXPVs (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Jun 2020 11:21:48 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:58720 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2390702AbgFXPVr (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Jun 2020 11:21:47 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-x1042.google.com (mail-pj1-x1042.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1042]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C506C061573 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pj1-x1042.google.com with SMTP id cm23so1286398pjb.5 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:21:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=networkplumber-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ol9Slh8In8dUnBduxx4JOdukPwamcC934GpmZu/Ua5E=; b=cy15rtYHzBaQzoepm+teFO7P5Q4dw7ZsiK6v0IopmUOdGk/2+s45JPjAkB9Yd8RrmR cjKqy3S/da91eO2aWRWdC2Bk0kRHJy+lzzwHRV/vHpXsH/mM5oF8lJaCo1sq3OT4jMv9 m/naOrW1AiRiNyF23juPvP8TPaib54/CTJBJ1Bg4sqGZI/tEiPRh+LNTu0VQ38K48w0M lNUdeMR9P+9XzFWlwpj2jgBlxSG/bOMiPPA7F/bg8sDFAgxjQCQXSbzp4EYSSlwFyE7e WuWYpVKbIB4XMbV+Dwn+4HDHbMeh7UtJUCpRoVHlwJCK3127OPcYqKvjxHdh1iBkUQH2 CKHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ol9Slh8In8dUnBduxx4JOdukPwamcC934GpmZu/Ua5E=; b=g73WFESTWovj8mo7azGK3sHeSH9yIlTK01Q0njKiIqN73zgHxI9yQxozylxTRTdwgo 484sZQxVusXcd8ko0msMH3pbksi/3iLIxQkW7x2864rf1Ce/gAtIasrlyt3L+iVuoZYY wtzqzWJyNIsS9ptJCUDb62OB6xVL22uSU15jRcmy54zVUEqQdG+CykhVVdQBU4b1EQnx 7MRg9BOb1CuIbTBLvaBboV2+zbHyhWlaxk7c5gcX0srB4VL1e/jbTClH/0+ng9498FOR WwMnn0SPm9lfh5mOJ0sKLUu4pDZbHbY2XPRGWDswxdiG3ftQSbOUF0FiOH1hPLzoPo0B pGtg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532QBsKKvFPcPUTh+XSbcz9LJqZOTSAf27zdBtgREt8UTcuxlraC CHgm0HRXNpkwO4iMqaf88x+BXYh1b3I= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyj+2c04Qa1xbUKsokB6RA5B+3co4HBqVf7OOBQS14gDmoJqpLfSre8LX6RKr7hh8zz7B8L5Q== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:347:: with SMTP id fh7mr29168827pjb.64.1593012105653; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.lan (204-195-22-127.wavecable.com. [204.195.22.127]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g18sm2535324pfk.40.2020.06.24.08.21.45 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:21:37 -0700 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Michal Kubecek Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH iproute2 0/5] Eliminate the term slave in iproute2 Message-ID: <20200624082137.68dc44b0@hermes.lan> In-Reply-To: <20200624095142.zete44mbrtieepju@lion.mk-sys.cz> References: <20200623235307.9216-1-stephen@networkplumber.org> <20200624095142.zete44mbrtieepju@lion.mk-sys.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 11:51:42 +0200 Michal Kubecek wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 04:53:02PM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > These patches remove the term slave from the iproute2 visible > > command line, documentation, and variable naming. > > > > This needs doing despite the fact it will cause cosmetic > > changes to visible outputs. > > AFAICS, your patches don't only change output of the command, they also > change command line parsing so that they break backward compatibility > and break existing scripts and tools. This is a very bad idea. > > If you really want to go through this exercise - and I don't agree with > the "needs doing" claim - you definitely should preserve existing > keywords as aliases. > > Michal Sure the old keywords could be silent aliases for new ones.