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From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, andrew@lunn.ch,
	f.fainelli@gmail.com, vivien.didelot@gmail.com,
	claudiu.manoil@nxp.com, alexandru.marginean@nxp.com,
	ioana.ciornei@nxp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 5/6] net: dsa: felix: delete .phylink_mac_an_restart code
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 15:56:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200704145613.GR1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200704124507.3336497-6-olteanv@gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 04, 2020 at 03:45:06PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> From: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
> 
> The Cisco SGMII and USXGMII standards specify control information
> exchange to be "achieved by using the Auto-Negotiation functionality
> defined in Clause 37 of the IEEE Specification 802.3z".
> 
> The differences to clause 37 auto-negotiation are specified by the
> respective standards. In the case of SGMII, the differences are spelled
> out as being:
> 
> - A reduction of the link timer value, from 10 ms to 1.6 ms.
> - A customization of the tx_config_reg[15:0], mostly to allow
>   propagation of speed information.
> 
> A similar situation is going on for USXGMII as well: "USXGMII Auto-neg
> mechanism is based on Clause 37 (Figure 37-6) plus additional management
> control to select USXGMII mode".
> 
> The point is, both Cisco standards make explicit reference that they
> require an auto-negotiation state machine implemented as per "Figure
> 37-6-Auto-Negotiation state diagram" from IEEE 802.3. In the SGMII spec,
> it is very clearly pointed out that both the MAC PCS (Figure 3 MAC
> Functional Block) and the PHY PCS (Figure 2 PHY Functional Block)
> contain an auto-negotiation block defined by "Auto-Negotiation Figure
> 37-6".
> 
> Since both ends of the SGMII/USXGMII link implement the same state
> machine (just carry different tx_config_reg payloads, which they convey
> to their link partner via /C/ ordered sets), naturally the ability to
> restart auto-negotiation is symmetrical. The state machine in IEEE 802.3
> Figure 37-6 specifies the signal that triggers an auto-negotiation
> restart as being "mr_restart_an=TRUE".
> 
> Furthermore, clause "37.2.5.1.9 State diagram variable to management
> register mapping", through its "Table 37-8-PCS state diagram variable to
> management register mapping", requires a PCS compliant to clause 37 to
> expose the mr_restart_an signal to management through MDIO register "0.9
> Auto-Negotiation restart", aka BMCR_ANRESTART in Linux terms.
> 
> The Felix PCS for SGMII and USXGMII is compliant to clause 37, so it
> exposes BMCR_ANRESTART to the operating system. When this bit is
> asserted, the following happens:
> 
> 1. STATUS[Auto_Negotiation_Complete] goes from 1->0.
> 2. The PCS starts sending AN sequences instead of packets or IDLEs.
> 3. The PCS waits to receive AN sequences from PHY and matches them.
> 4. Once it has received  matching AN sequences and a PHY acknowledge,
>    STATUS[Auto_Negotiation_Complete] goes from 0->1.
> 5. Normal packet transmission restarts.
> 
> Otherwise stated, the MAC PCS has the ability to re-trigger a switch of
> the lane from data mode into configuration mode, then control
> information exchange takes place, then the lane is switched back into
> data mode. These 5 steps are collectively described as "restart AN state
> machine" by the PCS documentation.
> This is all as per IEEE 802.3 Clause 37 AN state machine, which SGMII
> and USXGMII do not touch at this fundamental level.
> 
> Now, it is true that the Cisco SGMII and USXGMII specs mention that the
> control information exchange has a unidirectional meaning. That is, the
> PHY restarts the clause 37 auto-negotiation upon any change in MDI
> auto-negotiation parameters.
> 
> PHYLINK takes this fact a bit further, and since the fact that for
> SGMII/USXGMII, the MAC PCS conveys no new information to the PHY PCS
> (beyond acknowledging the received config word), does not have any use
> for permitting the MAC PCS to trigger a restart of the clause 37
> auto-negotiation.
> 
> The only SERDES protocols for which PHYLINK allows that are 1000Base-X
> and 2500Base-X. For those, the control information exchange _is_
> bidirectional (local PCS specifies its duplex and flow control
> abilities) since the link partner is at the other side of the media.
> 
> For any other SERDES protocols, the .phylink_mac_an_restart callback is
> dead code. This is probably OK, I can't come up with a situation where
> it might be useful for the MAC PCS to clear its cache of link state and
> ask for a new tx_config_reg.
> 
> So remove this code.

NAK for this description.  You know why.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-04 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-04 12:45 [PATCH v2 net-next 0/6] PHYLINK integration improvements for Felix DSA driver Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-04 12:45 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 1/6] net: dsa: felix: clarify the intention of writes to MII_BMCR Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-04 12:45 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 2/6] net: dsa: felix: support half-duplex link modes Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-04 12:45 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 3/6] net: dsa: felix: unconditionally configure MAC speed to 1000Mbps Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-04 12:45 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 4/6] net: dsa: felix: set proper pause frame timers based on link speed Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-04 12:45 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 5/6] net: dsa: felix: delete .phylink_mac_an_restart code Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-04 14:56   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin [this message]
2020-07-04 15:50     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-04 18:14       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-04 20:29         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-04 21:55           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-04 12:45 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 6/6] net: dsa: felix: use resolved link config in mac_link_up() Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-05 22:26 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 0/6] PHYLINK integration improvements for Felix DSA driver David Miller
2020-07-06  8:45   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-06 19:54     ` David Miller
2020-07-06 20:39       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-06 20:46         ` David Miller
2020-07-06 20:53           ` Florian Fainelli

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