From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Gal Pressman <galpress@amazon.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
Oded Gabbay <oded.gabbay@gmail.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, SW_Drivers <SW_Drivers@habana.ai>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/14] Adding GAUDI NIC code to habanalabs driver
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 14:52:27 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200918115227.GR869610@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0b21db8d-1061-6453-960b-8043951b3bad@amazon.com>
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 02:36:10PM +0300, Gal Pressman wrote:
> On 17/09/2020 20:18, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 11:46:58PM +0300, Oded Gabbay wrote:
> >> infrastructure for communication between multiple accelerators. Same
> >> as Nvidia uses NVlink, we use RDMA that we have inside our ASIC.
> >> The RDMA implementation we did does NOT support some basic RDMA
> >> IBverbs (such as MR and PD) and therefore, we can't use the rdma-core
> >> library or to connect to the rdma infrastructure in the kernel.
> >
> > You can't create a parallel RDMA subsystem in netdev, or in misc, and
> > you can't add random device offloads as IOCTL to nedevs.
> >
> > RDMA is the proper home for all the networking offloads that don't fit
> > into netdev.
> >
> > EFA was able to fit into rdma-core/etc and it isn't even RoCE at
> > all. I'm sure this can too.
>
> Well, EFA wasn't welcomed to the RDMA subsystem with open arms ;), initially it
> was suggested to go through the vfio subsystem instead.
>
> I think this comes back to the discussion we had when EFA was upstreamed, which
> is what's the bar to get accepted to the RDMA subsystem.
> IIRC, what we eventually agreed on is having a userspace rdma-core provider and
> ibv_{ud,rc}_pingpong working (or just supporting one of the IB spec's QP types?).
>
> Does GAUDI fit these requirements? If not, should it be in a different subsystem
> or should we open the "what qualifies as an RDMA device" question again?
I want to remind you that rdma-core requirement came to make sure that
anything exposed from the RDMA to the userspace is strict with proper
UAPI header hygiene.
I doubt that Havana's ioctls are backed by anything like this.
Thanks
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-18 11:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-15 17:10 [PATCH v3 00/14] Adding GAUDI NIC code to habanalabs driver Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add NIC H/W and registers definitions Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add NIC firmware-related definitions Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add NIC security configuration Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add support for NIC QMANs Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add NIC Ethernet support Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add NIC PHY code Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] habanalabs/gaudi: allow user to get MAC addresses in INFO IOCTL Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add a new IOCTL for NIC control operations Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add CQ " Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add WQ " Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add QP error handling Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] habanalabs/gaudi: Add ethtool support using coresight Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] habanalabs/gaudi: support DCB protocol Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add NIC init/fini calls from common code Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 20:35 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] Adding GAUDI NIC code to habanalabs driver Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-15 20:46 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 21:04 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-15 21:20 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 21:37 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-09-15 21:43 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 22:35 ` David Miller
2020-09-15 22:36 ` David Miller
2020-09-15 22:34 ` David Miller
2020-09-16 4:26 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-17 17:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 11:36 ` Gal Pressman
2020-09-18 11:52 ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2020-09-18 11:56 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 12:03 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-18 12:07 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 12:19 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-18 12:31 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 13:09 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-19 6:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-19 8:20 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-19 8:30 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-19 8:58 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-19 16:43 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-19 17:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-19 19:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-20 8:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-20 19:05 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-21 10:39 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-21 11:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-21 21:20 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-22 11:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-19 18:49 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-09-18 11:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 11:59 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 12:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 12:34 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 12:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 13:02 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 13:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 13:49 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 13:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 14:12 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 14:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 14:45 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 15:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 15:15 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 15:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-21 11:22 ` Gal Pressman
2020-09-21 11:49 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-22 11:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-22 12:46 ` Gal Pressman
2020-09-22 16:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-22 16:30 ` Gal Pressman
2020-09-22 16:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 12:10 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 20:42 ` David Miller
2020-09-15 20:49 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-16 6:26 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-16 6:36 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-16 7:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-16 8:02 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-16 8:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-16 8:47 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-16 12:00 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-20 16:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 23:04 ` Williams, Dan J
2020-09-18 12:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 12:01 ` Oded Gabbay
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