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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Gal Pressman <galpress@amazon.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Oded Gabbay <oded.gabbay@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	izur@habana.ai, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, SW_Drivers <SW_Drivers@habana.ai>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/14] Adding GAUDI NIC code to habanalabs driver
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 14:49:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200921114936.GC1223944@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b0721756-d323-b95e-b2d2-ca3ce8d4a660@amazon.com>

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 02:22:02PM +0300, Gal Pressman wrote:
> On 18/09/2020 18:28, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 06:15:52PM +0300, Oded Gabbay wrote:
> >
> >> I'm sorry, but you won't be able to convince me here that I need to
> >> "enslave" my entire code to RDMA, just because my ASIC "also" has some
> >> RDMA ports.
> >
> > You can't recreate common shared subsystems in a driver just because
> > you don't want to work with the subsystem.
> >
> > I don't care what else the ASIC has. In Linux the netdev part is
> > exposed through netdev, the RDMA part through RDMA, the
> > totally-not-a-GPU part through drivers/misc.
> >
> > It is always been this way. Chelsio didn't get to rebuild the SCSI
> > stack in their driver just because "storage is a small part of their
> > device"
> >
> > Drivers are not allowed to re-implement I2C/SPI/etc without re-using
> > the comon code for that just because "I2C is a small part of their
> > device"
> >
> > Exposing to userspace the creation of RoCE QPs and their related
> > objects are unambiguously a RDMA subsystem task. I don't even know how
> > you think you can argue it is not. It is your company proudly claiming
> > the device has 100G RoCE ports in all the marketing literature, after
> > all.
> >
> > It is too bad the device has a non-standards compliant implementation
> > of RoCE so this will be a bit hard for you. Oh well.
>
> What is considered a RoCE port in this case if it's not compliant with RoCE?

They claim that it is RoCE v2.
https://www.hotchips.org/hc31/HC31_1.14_HabanaLabs.Eitan_Medina.v9.pdf

Thanks

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-21 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-15 17:10 [PATCH v3 00/14] Adding GAUDI NIC code to habanalabs driver Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add NIC H/W and registers definitions Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add NIC firmware-related definitions Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add NIC security configuration Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add support for NIC QMANs Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add NIC Ethernet support Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add NIC PHY code Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] habanalabs/gaudi: allow user to get MAC addresses in INFO IOCTL Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add a new IOCTL for NIC control operations Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add CQ " Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add WQ " Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add QP error handling Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] habanalabs/gaudi: Add ethtool support using coresight Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] habanalabs/gaudi: support DCB protocol Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 17:10 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] habanalabs/gaudi: add NIC init/fini calls from common code Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 20:35 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] Adding GAUDI NIC code to habanalabs driver Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-15 20:46   ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 21:04     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-15 21:20       ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 21:37         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-09-15 21:43           ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 22:35             ` David Miller
2020-09-15 22:36           ` David Miller
2020-09-15 22:34         ` David Miller
2020-09-16  4:26           ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-17 17:18     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 11:36       ` Gal Pressman
2020-09-18 11:52         ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-18 11:56           ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 12:03             ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-18 12:07               ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 12:19                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-18 12:31                   ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 13:09                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-19  6:40                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-19  8:20                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-19  8:30                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-19  8:58                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-19 16:43                         ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-19 17:27                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-19 19:22                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-20  8:47                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-20 19:05                                 ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-21 10:39                                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-21 11:52                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-21 21:20                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-22 11:49                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-19 18:49                           ` Andrew Lunn
2020-09-18 11:56         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 11:59           ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 12:16             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 12:34               ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 12:50                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 13:02                   ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 13:26                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 13:49                       ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 13:59                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 14:12                           ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 14:19                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 14:45                               ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 15:07                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 15:15                                   ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-18 15:28                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-21 11:22                                       ` Gal Pressman
2020-09-21 11:49                                         ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2020-09-22 11:41                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-22 12:46                                           ` Gal Pressman
2020-09-22 16:14                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-22 16:30                                               ` Gal Pressman
2020-09-22 16:52                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 12:10         ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-15 20:42 ` David Miller
2020-09-15 20:49   ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-16  6:26     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-16  6:36       ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-16  7:42         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-16  8:02           ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-16  8:22             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-16  8:47               ` Oded Gabbay
2020-09-16 12:00                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-09-20 16:45                   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 23:04               ` Williams, Dan J
2020-09-18 12:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 12:01   ` Oded Gabbay

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