From: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: "Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>,
"Daniel Thompson" <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>,
"Sumit Garg" <sumit.garg@linaro.org>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
"Masami Hiramatsu" <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
"Steve McIntyre" <steve@einval.com>,
"open list:BPF JIT for MIPS (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, "Willy Liu" <willy.liu@realtek.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Sasha Levin" <sashal@kernel.org>,
"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
"Masahisa Kojima" <masahisa.kojima@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: realtek PHY commit bbc4d71d63549 causes regression
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 16:21:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201029142100.GA70245@apalos.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201025144258.GE792004@lunn.ch>
Hi Andrew
On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 03:42:58PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 03:34:06PM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 at 15:29, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 03:16:36PM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 at 17:45, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > However, that leaves the question why bbc4d71d63549bcd was backported,
> > > > > > although I understand why the discussion is a bit trickier there. But
> > > > > > if it did not fix a regression, only broken code that never worked in
> > > > > > the first place, I am not convinced it belongs in -stable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please ask Serge Semin what platform he tested on. I kind of expect it
> > > > > worked for him, in some limited way, enough that it passed his
> > > > > testing.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'll make a note here that a rather large number of platforms got
> > > > broken by the same fix for the Realtek PHY driver:
> > > >
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=bbc4d71d6354
> > > >
> > > > I seriously doubt whether disabling TX/RX delay when it is enabled by
> > > > h/w straps is the right thing to do here.
> > >
> > > The device tree is explicitly asking for rgmii. If it wanted the
> > > hardware left alone, it should of used PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_NA.
> > >
> >
> > Would you suggest that these DTs remove the phy-mode instead? As I
> > don't see anyone proposing that.
>
> What is also O.K, for most MAC drivers. Some might enforce it is
> present, in which case, you can set it to "", which will get parsed as
> PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_NA. But a few MAC drivers might configure there MII
> bus depending on the PHY mode, RGMII vs GMII.
>
> Andrew
What about reverting the realtek PHY commit from stable?
As Ard said it doesn't really fix anything (usage wise) and causes a bunch of
problems.
If I understand correctly we have 3 options:
1. 'Hack' the drivers in stable to fix it (and most of those hacks will take
a long time to remove)
2. Update DTE of all affected devices, backport it to stable and force users to
update
3. Revert the PHY commit
imho [3] is the least painful solution.
Thanks
/Ilias
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-29 14:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-17 14:20 realtek PHY commit bbc4d71d63549 causes regression Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-17 14:44 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-17 14:46 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-17 15:11 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-17 15:18 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-17 16:14 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2020-10-17 16:17 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-17 16:21 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2020-10-17 18:04 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-17 18:11 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-17 18:17 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-17 18:27 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-17 18:55 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-17 19:49 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-17 22:19 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-17 23:02 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-18 10:35 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-18 10:56 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-18 15:45 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-25 14:16 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-25 14:28 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-25 14:34 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-25 14:42 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-29 14:21 ` Ilias Apalodimas [this message]
2020-10-29 14:39 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-29 14:42 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-29 14:50 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-29 14:46 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2020-11-05 17:31 ` Jernej Škrabec
2020-11-13 13:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-11-13 14:44 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-11-13 15:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-11-13 16:56 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-11-13 21:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-11-13 22:43 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-11-13 22:49 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-11-14 0:40 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-11-14 10:09 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-10-18 15:38 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-18 14:20 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-10-17 18:01 ` Andrew Lunn
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