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From: Ido Schimmel <idosch@idosch.org>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Ivan Vecera <ivecera@redhat.com>,
	vyasevich@gmail.com, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com,
	Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com>,
	Roopa Prabhu <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 00/13] RX filtering for DSA switches
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 16:42:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201101144217.GA714146@shredder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201101120644.c23mfjty562t5xue@skbuf>

On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 02:06:44PM +0200, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 01:27:31PM +0200, Ido Schimmel wrote:
> > IIRC, getting PTP to work on bridged interfaces is tricky and this is
> > something that is not currently supported by mlxsw or Cumulus:
> > https://github.com/Mellanox/mlxsw/wiki/Precision-Time-Protocol#configuring-ptp
> > https://docs.cumulusnetworks.com/cumulus-linux-42/System-Configuration/Setting-Date-and-Time/#configure-the-ptp-boundary-clock
> > 
> > If the purpose of this discussion is to get PTP working in this
> > scenario, then lets have a separate discussion about that. This is
> > something we looked at in the past, but didn't make any progress (mainly
> > because we only got requirements for PTP over routed ports).
> > 
> > Anyway, opening packet sockets on interfaces (bridged or not) that pass
> > offloaded traffic will not get you this traffic to the packet sockets.
> 
> I don't think it's a different discussion, I think my issues with what
> you're proposing are coming exactly from there. I think that user space
> today is expecting that when it uses the *_ADD_MEMBERSHIP API, it is
> sufficient in order to see that traffic over a socket. Switchdev and DSA
> are kernel-only concepts, they have no user-facing API. I am not sure
> that it is desirable to change that. I hope you aren't telling me that
> we should add a --please argument to the PACKET_ADD_MEMBERSHIP /
> IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP UAPI just in case the network interface is a switchdev
> port...

If the goal of this thread is to get packet sockets to work with
offloaded traffic, then I think you need to teach these sockets to
instruct the bound device to trap / mirror incoming traffic to the CPU.
Maybe via a new ndo.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-01 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-21 21:10 [PATCH RFC net-next 00/13] RX filtering for DSA switches Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-21 21:10 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 01/13] net: core: dev_addr_lists: add VID to device address Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-21 21:10 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 02/13] net: 8021q: vlan_dev: add vid tag to addresses of uc and mc lists Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-21 21:10 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 03/13] net: 8021q: vlan_dev: add vid tag for vlan device own address Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-21 21:10 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 04/13] ethernet: eth: add default vid len for all ethernet kind devices Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-21 21:10 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 05/13] net: bridge: multicast: propagate br_mc_disabled_update() return Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-21 21:10 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 06/13] net: core: dev_addr_lists: export some raw __hw_addr helpers Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-21 21:10 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 07/13] net: dsa: don't use switchdev_notifier_fdb_info in dsa_switchdev_event_work Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-21 21:10 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 08/13] net: dsa: add ability to program unicast and multicast filters for CPU port Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-21 21:10 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 09/13] net: dsa: mroute: don't panic the kernel if called without the prepare phase Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-21 21:10 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 10/13] net: bridge: add port flags for host flooding Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-22 12:38   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2020-05-22 13:13     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-22 18:45       ` Allan W. Nielsen
2020-07-20 11:08         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-24 14:26   ` Ido Schimmel
2020-05-24 16:13     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-25 20:11       ` Ido Schimmel
2020-05-25 20:32         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-23 22:35         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-27 17:15           ` Ido Schimmel
2020-05-21 21:10 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 11/13] net: dsa: deal with new flooding port attributes from bridge Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-21 21:10 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 12/13] net: dsa: treat switchdev notifications for multicast router connected to port Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-21 21:10 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 13/13] net: dsa: wire up multicast IGMP snooping attribute notification Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-22 18:42 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 00/13] RX filtering for DSA switches Allan W. Nielsen
2020-05-24 14:06 ` Ido Schimmel
2020-05-24 16:24   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-25 19:48     ` Ido Schimmel
2020-05-25 20:23       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-26 14:01         ` Ido Schimmel
2020-05-27 11:36           ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-28 14:37             ` Ido Schimmel
2020-07-20 10:00               ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-27 16:56                 ` Ido Schimmel
2020-10-27 11:52                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-28 14:43                     ` Ido Schimmel
2020-10-28 18:46                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-01 11:27                         ` Ido Schimmel
2020-11-01 12:06                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-01 14:42                             ` Ido Schimmel [this message]
2020-11-01 15:04                               ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-01 15:39                                 ` Ido Schimmel
2020-11-01 16:13                                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-11  4:12                                     ` Florian Fainelli
2020-05-24 16:13 ` Florian Fainelli
2020-05-24 16:34   ` Vladimir Oltean

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