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From: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@gmail.com>
To: Petr Malat <oss@malat.biz>
Cc: linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org, Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sctp: Fix sending when PMTU is less than SCTP_DEFAULT_MINSEGMENT
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 07:21:06 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201106102106.GB3556@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201106094824.GA7570@bordel.klfree.net>

On Fri, Nov 06, 2020 at 10:48:24AM +0100, Petr Malat wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 06, 2020 at 05:46:34AM -0300, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 11:39:47AM +0100, Petr Malat wrote:
> > > Function sctp_dst_mtu() never returns lower MTU than
> > > SCTP_TRUNC4(SCTP_DEFAULT_MINSEGMENT) even when the actual MTU is less,
> > > in which case we rely on the IP fragmentation and must enable it.
> > 
> > This should be being handled at sctp_packet_will_fit():
> 
> sctp_packet_will_fit() does something a little bit different, it
> allows fragmentation, if the packet must be longer than the pathmtu
> set in SCTP structures, which is never less than 512 (see
> sctp_dst_mtu()) even when the actual mtu is less than 512.
> 
> One can test it by setting mtu of an interface to e.g. 300,
> and sending a longer packet (e.g. 400B):
> >           psize = packet->size;
> >           if (packet->transport->asoc)
> >                   pmtu = packet->transport->asoc->pathmtu;
> >           else
> >                   pmtu = packet->transport->pathmtu;
> here the returned pmtu will be 512

Thing is, your patch is using the same vars to check for it:
+       pmtu = tp->asoc ? tp->asoc->pathmtu : tp->pathmtu;

> 
> > 
> >           /* Decide if we need to fragment or resubmit later. */
> >           if (psize + chunk_len > pmtu) {
> This branch will not be taken as the packet length is less then 512

Right, ok. While then your patch will catch it because pmtu will be
SCTP_DEFAULT_MINSEGMENT, as it is checking with '<='.

> 
> >            }
> > 
> And the whole function will return SCTP_XMIT_OK without setting
> ipfragok.
> 
> I think the idea of never going bellow 512 in sctp_dst_mtu() is to
> reduce overhead of SCTP headers, which is fine, but when we do that,
> we must be sure to allow the IP fragmentation, which is currently
> missing.

Hmm. ip frag is probably just worse than higher header/payload
overhead.

> 
> The other option would be to keep track of the real MTU in pathmtu
> and perform max(512, pathmtu) in sctp_packet_will_fit() function.

I need to check where this 512 came from. I don't recall it from top
of my head and it's from before git history. Maybe we should just drop
this limit, if it's artificial. IPV4_MIN_MTU is 68.

> 
> Not sure when exactly this got broken, but using MTU less than 512
> used to work in 4.9.

Uhh, that's a bit old already. If you could narrow it down, that would
be nice.

  Marcelo

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-06 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-05 10:39 [PATCH] sctp: Fix sending when PMTU is less than SCTP_DEFAULT_MINSEGMENT Petr Malat
2020-11-06  8:46 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2020-11-06  9:48   ` Petr Malat
2020-11-06 10:21     ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner [this message]
2020-11-09 22:57       ` Jakub Kicinski

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