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From: "Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
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Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH 000/141] Fix fall-through warnings for Clang
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 07:03:48 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201123130348.GA3119@embeddedor> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dbd2cb703ed9eefa7dde9281ea26ab0f7acc8afe.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 11:53:55AM -0800, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sun, 2020-11-22 at 11:22 -0800, Joe Perches wrote:
> > On Sun, 2020-11-22 at 11:12 -0800, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2020-11-22 at 10:25 -0800, Joe Perches wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2020-11-22 at 10:21 -0800, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > > > Please tell me our reward for all this effort isn't a single
> > > > > missing error print.
> > > > 
> > > > There were quite literally dozens of logical defects found
> > > > by the fallthrough additions.  Very few were logging only.
> > > 
> > > So can you give us the best examples (or indeed all of them if
> > > someone is keeping score)?  hopefully this isn't a US election
> > > situation ...
> > 
> > Gustavo?  Are you running for congress now?
> > 
> > https://lwn.net/Articles/794944/
> 
> That's 21 reported fixes of which about 50% seem to produce no change
> in code behaviour at all, a quarter seem to have no user visible effect
> with the remaining quarter producing unexpected errors on obscure
> configuration parameters, which is why no-one really noticed them
> before.

The really important point here is the number of bugs this has prevented
and will prevent in the future. See an example of this, below:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iio/20190813135802.GB27392@kroah.com/

This work is still relevant, even if the total number of issues/bugs
we find in the process is zero (which is not the case).

"The sucky thing about doing hard work to deploy hardening is that the
result is totally invisible by definition (things not happening) [..]"
- Dmitry Vyukov

Thanks
--
Gustavo






  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-23 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-20 18:21 [PATCH 000/141] Fix fall-through warnings for Clang Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:25 ` [PATCH 009/141] igb: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:25 ` [PATCH 011/141] ipv4: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:26 ` [PATCH 012/141] ixgbe: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:26 ` [PATCH 015/141] netfilter: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 22:47   ` Florian Westphal
2020-11-23 22:45     ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:26 ` [PATCH 018/141] qed: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:50   ` [EXT] " Igor Russkikh
2020-11-23 22:46     ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:27 ` [PATCH 019/141] qlcnic: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:27 ` [PATCH 025/141] bnxt_en: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:28 ` [PATCH 029/141] e1000: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:28 ` [PATCH 033/141] fm10k: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:28 ` [PATCH 000/141] " Joe Perches
2020-11-20 19:02   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:29 ` [PATCH 036/141] ice: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:30 ` [PATCH 039/141] ixgbevf: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:30 ` [PATCH 042/141] net: 3c509: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-03-04 22:50   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:31 ` [PATCH 043/141] net: cassini: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-03-04 22:52   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:31 ` [PATCH 044/141] net/mlx4: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-22  8:36   ` Tariq Toukan
2020-11-23 22:49     ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:31 ` [PATCH 045/141] net: mscc: ocelot: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-03-04 22:53   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-03-04 23:01     ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-03-05 19:22       ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:31 ` [PATCH 046/141] netxen_nic: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:31 ` [PATCH 047/141] nfp: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:32 ` [PATCH 056/141] vxge: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:33 ` [PATCH 065/141] airo: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-12-08  8:08   ` Kalle Valo
2020-11-20 18:34 ` [PATCH 069/141] ath5k: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-12-09  7:03   ` Kalle Valo
2020-11-20 18:34 ` [PATCH 070/141] atm: fore200e: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-04-20 20:17   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-05-17 23:52     ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:34 ` [PATCH 072/141] can: peak_usb: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-21 13:17   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2020-11-21 19:50     ` Joe Perches
2020-11-21 23:04       ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2020-11-22  2:46         ` Joe Perches
2020-11-20 18:34 ` [PATCH 073/141] carl9170: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:34 ` [PATCH 074/141] cfg80211: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:35 ` [PATCH 076/141] decnet: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-03-04 22:54   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:36 ` [PATCH 091/141] iwlwifi: iwl-drv: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-12-11 18:22   ` Kalle Valo
2020-11-20 18:36 ` [PATCH 093/141] mac80211: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:37 ` [PATCH 099/141] mt76: mt7615: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:37 ` [PATCH 105/141] net: ax25: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-03-04 22:54   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:37 ` [PATCH 106/141] net: bridge: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-02-02 14:16   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2021-03-04 22:56     ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:38 ` [PATCH 107/141] net: core: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-03-04 22:56   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:38 ` [PATCH 108/141] netfilter: ipt_REJECT: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 22:49   ` Florian Westphal
2020-11-24 14:37     ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:38 ` [PATCH 109/141] net: netrom: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-30 12:51   ` Dan Carpenter
2020-11-20 18:38 ` [PATCH 110/141] net/packet: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:38 ` [PATCH 111/141] net: plip: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-03-04 23:00   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:38 ` [PATCH 112/141] net: rose: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-03-04 23:00   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:38 ` [PATCH 113/141] nl80211: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:38 ` [PATCH 115/141] rds: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:38 ` [PATCH 116/141] rt2x00: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:38 ` [PATCH 117/141] rtl8xxxu: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 21:39   ` Jes Sorensen
2020-11-24 16:09     ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:39 ` [PATCH 118/141] rtw88: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:39 ` [PATCH 119/141] rxrpc: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:39 ` [PATCH 125/141] sctp: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:39 ` [PATCH 127/141] staging: qlge: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-25  4:42   ` Benjamin Poirier
2020-11-30 12:55     ` Dan Carpenter
2020-11-20 18:40 ` [PATCH 129/141] SUNRPC: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:40 ` [PATCH 130/141] tipc: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:40 ` [PATCH 136/141] virtio_net: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:40 ` [PATCH 137/141] wcn36xx: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:41 ` [PATCH 139/141] xfrm: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:41 ` [PATCH 140/141] zd1201: " Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 18:53 ` [PATCH 000/141] " Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-20 19:04   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-11-20 19:30   ` Kees Cook
2020-11-20 19:51     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-20 20:48       ` Kees Cook
2020-11-22 16:17       ` Kees Cook
2020-11-22 18:21         ` James Bottomley
2020-11-22 18:25           ` Joe Perches
2020-11-22 19:12             ` James Bottomley
2020-11-22 19:22               ` Joe Perches
2020-11-22 19:53                 ` James Bottomley
2020-11-23 13:03                   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva [this message]
2020-11-23 16:31                     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " James Bottomley
2020-11-24 21:32                       ` Kees Cook
2020-11-24 22:24                         ` Finn Thain
2020-11-24 23:15                           ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-11-24 23:53                             ` Finn Thain
2020-11-25  1:05                               ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-11-25  7:05                         ` James Bottomley
2020-11-25 12:24                           ` Nick Desaulniers
     [not found]                             ` <20201125082405.1d8c23dc@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com>
2020-11-25 17:04                               ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-11-25 22:09                               ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-11-25 21:33                             ` Finn Thain
2020-11-25 22:09                               ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-11-25 23:21                                 ` Finn Thain
2020-11-26  0:30                                 ` Finn Thain
2020-11-25 21:10                           ` Kees Cook
2020-11-22 20:35           ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-11-22 22:36             ` James Bottomley
2020-11-23 14:19               ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-11-23 15:58                 ` James Bottomley
2020-11-23 16:24                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-11-23 16:32                   ` Joe Perches
2020-11-23 18:56                   ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-11-23 20:37                     ` James Bottomley
2020-11-25  0:32                       ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-11-25 22:44                         ` Edward Cree
2020-11-26 14:53                           ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-11-26 15:28                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-11-26 16:18                               ` Karol Herbst
2020-11-26 17:05                               ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-11-25 10:38                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-25  9:01                   ` Sean Young
2020-11-22 22:54             ` Finn Thain
2020-11-22 23:04               ` James Bottomley
2020-11-23 14:05               ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-11-24  0:58                 ` Finn Thain
2020-11-24  1:05                   ` Joe Perches
2020-11-24  2:48                     ` Finn Thain
2020-11-24 23:46                   ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-11-22 22:10           ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-11-24  1:32         ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-11-24 21:25           ` Kees Cook
2020-11-25 23:02             ` Edward Cree
2020-12-01 14:08           ` Dan Carpenter
2020-12-01 14:04         ` Dan Carpenter
2020-11-20 22:21 ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-11-23 20:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-24 14:47   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
     [not found] ` <160616392671.21180.16517492185091399884.b4-ty@kernel.org>
2020-11-24 14:47   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-12-01  5:52 ` Martin K. Petersen
2020-12-01  8:20   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2020-12-08  4:52 ` (subset) " Martin K. Petersen

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