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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	George McCollister <george.mccollister@gmail.com>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND..." <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/3] net: dsa: add Arrow SpeedChips XRS700x driver
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 22:32:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201127213244.GY2073444@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201127131346.3d594c8e@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.DHCP.thefacebook.com>

> > So long as these counters are still in ethtool -S, i guess it does not
> > matter. That i do trust to be accurate, and probably consistent across
> > the counters it returns.
> 
> Not in the NIC designs I'm familiar with.

Many NICs have a way to take a hardware snapshot of all counters. You
can then read them out as fast or slow as you want, since you read the
snapshot, not the live counters. As a result you can compare counters
against each other.

> But anyway - this only matters in some strict testing harness, right?
> Normal users will look at a stats after they noticed issues (so minutes
> / hours later) or at the very best they'll look at a graph, which will
> hardly require <1sec accuracy to when error occurred.

As Vladimir has pointed out, polling once per second over an i2c bus
is expensive. And there is an obvious linear cost with the number of
ports on these switches. And we need to keep latency down so that PTP
is accurate. Do we really want to be polling, for something which is
very unlikely to be used? I think we should probably take another look
at the locking and see if it can be modified to allow block, so we can
avoid this wasteful polling.

	Andrew


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-27 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-25 19:37 [PATCH net-next v2 0/3] Arrow SpeedChips XRS700x DSA Driver George McCollister
2020-11-25 19:37 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/3] dsa: add support for Arrow XRS700x tag trailer George McCollister
2020-11-25 20:34   ` Andrew Lunn
2020-11-26 13:50     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-26 14:01       ` Andrew Lunn
2020-11-26 14:28         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-25 20:34   ` Andrew Lunn
2020-11-26  1:31   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-11-25 19:37 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/3] net: dsa: add Arrow SpeedChips XRS700x driver George McCollister
2020-11-26  1:42   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-26  2:25     ` George McCollister
2020-11-26 13:24       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-26 17:56         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-26 19:07           ` George McCollister
2020-11-26 22:05             ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-27 18:35               ` Jakub Kicinski
     [not found]                 ` <CAFSKS=MAdnR2jzmkQfTnSQZ7GY5x5KJE=oeqPCQdbZdf5n=4ZQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-11-27 19:50                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-27 20:58                     ` George McCollister
2020-11-27 21:37                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-27 22:42                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-27 23:21                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-27 23:51                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-27 23:30                         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-11-27 23:39                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-27 23:56                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-28  1:45                               ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-28  0:02                             ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-28  0:39                               ` Andrew Lunn
2020-11-28  1:41                                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-28  2:15                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-30 16:52                                     ` George McCollister
2020-11-30 23:50                                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 23:58                                         ` George McCollister
2020-12-01  0:19                                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-27 20:47                 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-11-27 21:13                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-27 21:23                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-27 21:36                       ` Andrew Lunn
2020-12-02  0:28                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-12-02  0:54                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-27 22:03                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-27 21:32                     ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2020-11-27 22:14                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-27 22:46                         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-11-25 19:37 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/3] dt-bindings: net: dsa: add bindings for xrs700x switches George McCollister
2020-11-26  1:30   ` Florian Fainelli

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