From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: "Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>
Cc: brouer@redhat.com, Sven Auhagen <sven.auhagen@voleatech.de>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Matteo Croce <mcroce@microsoft.com>,
Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] net: mvpp2: increase MTU limit when XDP enabled
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 11:33:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210106113350.46d0c659@carbon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210105184308.1d2b7253@kernel.org>
On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 18:43:08 +0100
Marek Behún <kabel@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 18:24:37 +0100
> Sven Auhagen <sven.auhagen@voleatech.de> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 06:19:21PM +0100, Marek Behún wrote:
> > > Currently mvpp2_xdp_setup won't allow attaching XDP program if
> > > mtu > ETH_DATA_LEN (1500).
> > >
> > > The mvpp2_change_mtu on the other hand checks whether
> > > MVPP2_RX_PKT_SIZE(mtu) > MVPP2_BM_LONG_PKT_SIZE.
> > >
> > > These two checks are semantically different.
> > >
> > > Moreover this limit can be increased to MVPP2_MAX_RX_BUF_SIZE, since in
> > > mvpp2_rx we have
> > > xdp.data = data + MVPP2_MH_SIZE + MVPP2_SKB_HEADROOM;
> > > xdp.frame_sz = PAGE_SIZE;
> > >
> > > Change the checks to check whether
> > > mtu > MVPP2_MAX_RX_BUF_SIZE
> >
> > Hello Marek,
> >
> > in general, XDP is based on the model, that packets are not bigger
> > than 1500.
This is WRONG.
The XDP design/model (with PAGE_SIZE 4096) allows MTU to be 3506 bytes.
This comes from:
* 4096 = frame_sz = PAGE_SIZE
* -256 = reserved XDP_PACKET_HEADROOM
* -320 = reserved tailroom with sizeof(skb_shared_info)
* - 14 = Ethernet header size as MTU value is L3
4096-256-320-14 = 3506 bytes
Depending on driver memory layout choices this can (of-cause) be lower.
> > I am not sure if that has changed, I don't believe Jumbo Frames are
> > upstreamed yet.
This is unrelated to this patch, but Lorenzo and Eelco is assigned to
work on this.
> > You are correct that the MVPP2 driver can handle bigger packets
> > without a problem but if you do XDP redirect that won't work with
> > other drivers and your packets will disappear.
>
This statement is too harsh. The XDP layer will not do (IP-level)
fragmentation for you. Thus, if you redirect/transmit frames out
another interface with lower MTU than the frame packet size then the
packet will of-cause be dropped (the drop counter is unfortunately not
well defined). This is pretty standard behavior.
This is why I'm proposing the BPF-helper bpf_check_mtu(). To allow the
BPF-prog to check the MTU before doing the redirect.
> At least 1508 is required when I want to use XDP with a Marvell DSA
> switch: the DSA header is 4 or 8 bytes long there.
>
> The DSA driver increases MTU on CPU switch interface by this length
> (on my switches to 1504).
>
> So without this I cannot use XDP with mvpp2 with a Marvell switch with
> default settings, which I think is not OK.
>
> Since with the mvneta driver it works (mvneta checks for
> MVNETA_MAX_RX_BUF_SIZE rather than ETH_DATA_LEN), I think it should also work
> with mvpp2.
I think you patch makes perfect sense.
--
Best regards,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer
MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-06 10:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-05 17:19 [PATCH net-next] net: mvpp2: increase MTU limit when XDP enabled Marek Behún
2021-01-05 17:24 ` Sven Auhagen
2021-01-05 17:43 ` Marek Behún
2021-01-05 20:21 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-01-06 11:56 ` Marek Behún
2021-01-06 12:32 ` Marek Behún
2021-01-06 12:33 ` Marek Behún
2021-01-06 18:34 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-01-06 13:13 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-01-06 10:33 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2021-01-06 11:28 ` Sven Auhagen
2021-01-05 20:23 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-01-06 12:11 ` Marek Behún
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