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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	kuba@kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	toshiaki.makita1@gmail.com, lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com,
	toke@redhat.com, Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>,
	brouer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next] net: veth: alloc skb in bulk for ndo_xdp_xmit
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 11:06:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210201110634.70be00ba@carbon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210129214927.GC20729@lore-desk>

On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 22:49:27 +0100
Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Jan 29, Lorenzo Bianconi wrote:
> > On Jan 29, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:  
> > > On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 17:02:16 +0100
> > > Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > > +	for (i = 0; i < n_skb; i++) {
> > > > > +		struct sk_buff *skb = skbs[i];
> > > > > +
> > > > > +		memset(skb, 0, offsetof(struct sk_buff, tail));    
> > > > 
> > > > It is very subtle, but the memset operation on Intel CPU translates
> > > > into a "rep stos" (repeated store) operation.  This operation need to
> > > > save CPU-flags (to support being interrupted) thus it is actually
> > > > expensive (and in my experience cause side effects on pipeline
> > > > efficiency).  I have a kernel module for testing memset here[1].
> > > > 
> > > > In CPUMAP I have moved the clearing outside this loop. But via asking
> > > > the MM system to clear the memory via gfp_t flag __GFP_ZERO.  This
> > > > cause us to clear more memory 256 bytes, but it is aligned.  Above
> > > > offsetof(struct sk_buff, tail) is 188 bytes, which is unaligned making
> > > > the rep-stos more expensive in setup time.  It is below 3-cachelines,
> > > > which is actually interesting and an improvement since last I checked.
> > > > I actually have to re-test with time_bench_memset[1], to know that is
> > > > better now.  
> > > 
> > > After much testing (with [1]), yes please use gfp_t flag __GFP_ZERO.  
> > 
> > I run some comparison tests using memset and __GFP_ZERO and with VETH_XDP_BATCH
> > set to 8 and 16. Results are pretty close so not completely sure the delta is
> > just a noise:
> > 
> > - VETH_XDP_BATCH= 8 + __GFP_ZERO: ~3.737Mpps
> > - VETH_XDP_BATCH= 16 + __GFP_ZERO: ~3.79Mpps
> > - VETH_XDP_BATCH= 8 + memset: ~3.766Mpps
> > - VETH_XDP_BATCH= 16 + __GFP_ZERO: ~3.765Mpps  
> 
> Sorry last line is:
>   - VETH_XDP_BATCH= 16 + memset: ~3.765Mpps

Thanks for doing these benchmarks.

From my memset benchmarks we are looking for a 1.66 ns difference(10.463-8.803),
which is VERY hard to measure accurately (anything below 2 ns is
extremely hard due to OS noise).

VETH_XDP_BATCH=8 __GFP_ZERO (3.737Mpps) -> memset (3.766Mpps)
 - __GFP_ZERO loosing 0.029Mpps and 2.06 ns slower

VETH_XDP_BATCH=16 __GFP_ZERO (3.79Mpps) -> memset (3.765Mpps)
 - __GFP_ZERO gaining 0.025Mpps and 1.75 ns faster

I would say this is noise in the measurements.  Even-though batch=16
match the expected improvement, batch=8 goes in the other direction.

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer


  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-01 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <415937741661ac331be09c0e59b4ff1eacfee782.1611861943.git.lorenzo@kernel.org>
     [not found] ` <20210129170216.6a879619@carbon>
2021-01-29 19:17   ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next] net: veth: alloc skb in bulk for ndo_xdp_xmit Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-01-29 21:46     ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2021-01-29 21:49       ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2021-02-01 10:06         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
     [not found] ` <36298336-72f9-75a5-781e-7cb01dac1702@gmail.com>
2021-01-29 21:41   ` Lorenzo Bianconi

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