From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Ido Schimmel <idosch@idosch.org>
Cc: Chris Mi <cmi@nvidia.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
jiri@nvidia.com, Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v4] net: psample: Introduce stubs to remove NIC driver dependency
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 09:03:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210208070350.GB4656@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210201180837.GB3456040@shredder.lan>
On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 08:08:37PM +0200, Ido Schimmel wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 09:37:11AM +0800, Chris Mi wrote:
> > Hi Ido,
> >
> > On 1/30/2021 10:42 PM, Ido Schimmel wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 12:30:09PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 14:08:39 +0800 Chris Mi wrote:
> > > > > Instead of discussing it several days, maybe it's better to review
> > > > > current patch, so that we can move forward :)
> > > > It took you 4 revisions to post a patch which builds cleanly and now
> > > > you want to hasten the review? My favorite kind of submission.
> > > >
> > > > The mlxsw core + spectrum drivers are 65 times the size of psample
> > > > on my system. Why is the dependency a problem?
> > > mlxsw has been using psample for ~4 years and I don't remember seeing a
> > > single complaint about the dependency. I don't understand why this patch
> > > is needed.
> > Please see Saeed's comment in previous email:
> >
> > "
> >
> > The issue is with distros who ship modules independently.. having a
> > hard dependency will make it impossible for basic mlx5_core.ko users to
> > load the driver when psample is not installed/loaded.
> >
> > I prefer to have 0 dependency on external modules in a HW driver.
> > "
>
> I saw it, but it basically comes down to personal preferences.
It is more than personal preferences. In opposite to the mlxsw which is
used for netdev only, the mlx5_core is used by other subsystems, e.g. RDMA,
so Saeed's request to avoid extra dependencies makes sense.
We don't need psample dependency to run RDMA traffic.
>
> >
> > We are working on a tc sample offload feature for mlx5_core. The distros
> > are likely to request us to do this. So we address it before submitting
> > the driver changes.
>
> Which distros? Can they comment here? mlxsw is in RHEL and I don't
> remember queries from them about the psample module.
There is a huge difference between being in RHEL and actively work with
partners as mlx5 does.
The open mailing list is not the right place to discuss our partnership
relations.
Thanks
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Chris
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-08 7:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-28 1:45 [PATCH net-next v4] net: psample: Introduce stubs to remove NIC driver dependency Chris Mi
2021-01-29 5:14 ` Cong Wang
2021-01-29 6:08 ` Chris Mi
2021-01-29 20:30 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-01-29 20:44 ` Saeed Mahameed
2021-01-29 21:47 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-01-30 14:42 ` Ido Schimmel
2021-02-01 1:37 ` Chris Mi
2021-02-01 18:08 ` Ido Schimmel
2021-02-08 7:03 ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2021-02-08 8:57 ` Ido Schimmel
2021-02-08 9:07 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-02-08 17:07 ` Ido Schimmel
2021-02-09 6:47 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-02-09 9:25 ` Or Gerlitz
2021-02-09 10:01 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-02-09 10:49 ` Or Gerlitz
2021-02-11 5:09 ` Saeed Mahameed
2021-02-11 21:59 ` Ido Schimmel
2021-02-12 0:41 ` Saeed Mahameed
2021-01-29 21:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-01-30 2:35 ` Chris Mi
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