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From: Ido Schimmel <idosch@idosch.org>
To: "Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)" <maheshb@google.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Petr Machata <petrm@nvidia.com>,
	Jian Yang <jianyang.kernel@gmail.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jian Yang <jianyang@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3] net-loopback: set lo dev initial state to UP
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 21:06:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210209190627.GA267182@shredder.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF2d9jj3x9CbPbB6u3gQyW=80WqXxwqnk2bbk1pEmkP6K_Wasg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 10:49:23AM -0800, Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार) wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 8:23 AM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 12:54:59 +0100 Petr Machata wrote:
> > > Jian Yang <jianyang.kernel@gmail.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > From: Jian Yang <jianyang@google.com>
> > > >
> > > > Traditionally loopback devices come up with initial state as DOWN for
> > > > any new network-namespace. This would mean that anyone needing this
> > > > device would have to bring this UP by issuing something like 'ip link
> > > > set lo up'. This can be avoided if the initial state is set as UP.
> > >
> > > This will break user scripts, and it fact breaks kernel's very own
> > > selftest. We currently have this internally:
> > >
> > >     diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/net/fib_nexthops.sh b/tools/testing/selftests/net/fib_nexthops.sh
> > >     index 4c7d33618437..bf8ed24ab3ba 100755
> > >     --- a/tools/testing/selftests/net/fib_nexthops.sh
> > >     +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/net/fib_nexthops.sh
> > >     @@ -121,8 +121,6 @@ create_ns()
> > >       set -e
> > >       ip netns add ${n}
> > >       ip netns set ${n} $((nsid++))
> > >     - ip -netns ${n} addr add 127.0.0.1/8 dev lo
> > >     - ip -netns ${n} link set lo up
> > >
> > >       ip netns exec ${n} sysctl -qw net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
> > >       ip netns exec ${n} sysctl -qw net.ipv4.fib_multipath_use_neigh=1
> > >
> > > This now fails because the ip commands are run within a "set -e" block,
> > > and kernel rejects addition of a duplicate address.
> >
> > Thanks for the report, could you send a revert with this explanation?
> Rather than revert, shouldn't we just fix the self-test in that regard?

I reviewed such a patch internally and asked Petr to report it as a
regression instead. At the time the new behavior was added under a
sysctl, but nobody had examples for behavior that will break, so the
sysctl was removed. Now we have such an example, so the revert / sysctl
are needed.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-09 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-01 23:34 [PATCH net-next v3] net-loopback: set lo dev initial state to UP Jian Yang
2021-02-05  3:00 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2021-02-09 11:54 ` Petr Machata
2021-02-09 16:23   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-02-09 17:19     ` Petr Machata
2021-02-09 18:49     ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2021-02-09 19:04       ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-02-09 19:18         ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2021-02-09 19:43           ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-02-09 19:06       ` Ido Schimmel [this message]
2021-02-09 19:19         ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)

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