From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Cc: Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Yan-Hsuan Chuang <tony0620emma@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] PCI: Convert rtw88 power cycle quirk to shutdown quirk
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 12:16:56 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210226181656.GA143072@bjorn-Precision-5520> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6db9e75e-52a7-4316-bfd8-cf44b4875f44@gmail.com>
On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 02:31:31PM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
> On 26.02.2021 13:18, Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 8:10 PM Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 26.02.2021 08:12, Kalle Valo wrote:
> >>> Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> Now we have a generic D3 shutdown quirk, so convert the original
> >>>> approach to a PCI quirk.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>>> drivers/net/wireless/realtek/rtw88/pci.c | 2 --
> >>>> drivers/pci/quirks.c | 6 ++++++
> >>>> 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >>>
> >>> It would have been nice to CC linux-wireless also on patches 1-2. I only
> >>> saw patch 3 and had to search the rest of patches from lkml.
> >>>
> >>> I assume this goes via the PCI tree so:
> >>>
> >>> Acked-by: Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>
> >>
> >> To me it looks odd to (mis-)use the quirk mechanism to set a device
> >> to D3cold on shutdown. As I see it the quirk mechanism is used to work
> >> around certain device misbehavior. And setting a device to a D3
> >> state on shutdown is a normal activity, and the shutdown() callback
> >> seems to be a good place for it.
> >> I miss an explanation what the actual benefit of the change is.
> >
> > To make putting device to D3 more generic, as there are more than one
> > device need the quirk.
> >
> > Here's the discussion:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-usb/00de6927-3fa6-a9a3-2d65-2b4d4e8f0012@linux.intel.com/
> >
>
> Thanks for the link. For the AMD USB use case I don't have a strong opinion,
> what's considered the better option may be a question of personal taste.
> For rtw88 however I'd still consider it over-engineering to replace a simple
> call to pci_set_power_state() with a PCI quirk.
> I may be biased here because I find it sometimes bothering if I want to
> look up how a device is handled and in addition to checking the respective
> driver I also have to grep through quirks.c whether there's any special
> handling.
I haven't looked at these patches carefully, but in general, I agree
that quirks should be used to work around hardware defects in the
device. If the device behaves correctly per spec, we should use a
different mechanism so the code remains generic and all devices get
the benefit.
If we do add quirks, the commit log should explain what the device
defect is.
Bjorn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-26 18:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20210225174041.405739-1-kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>
2021-02-25 17:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] PCI: Convert rtw88 power cycle quirk to shutdown quirk Kai-Heng Feng
2021-02-26 7:12 ` Kalle Valo
2021-02-26 12:10 ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-02-26 12:18 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2021-02-26 13:31 ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-02-26 13:40 ` Kalle Valo
2021-02-26 18:16 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2021-03-04 6:07 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2021-03-04 16:02 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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