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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Eelco Chaudron <echaudro@redhat.com>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com>
Cc: brouer@redhat.com, "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"Magnus Karlsson" <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
	"Jonathan Lemon" <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <kafai@fb.com>,
	"Song Liu" <songliubraving@fb.com>, "Yonghong Song" <yhs@fb.com>,
	"KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	"Willem de Bruijn" <willemb@google.com>,
	"Xie He" <xie.he.0141@gmail.com>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"John Ogness" <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	"Wang Hai" <wanghai38@huawei.com>,
	"Tanner Love" <tannerlove@google.com>,
	"Eyal Birger" <eyal.birger@gmail.com>,
	"Menglong Dong" <dong.menglong@zte.com.cn>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next] xsk: support AF_PACKET
Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 11:50:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210528115003.37840424@carbon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1622192521.5931044-1-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>

On Fri, 28 May 2021 17:02:01 +0800
Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 28 May 2021 10:55:58 +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com> writes:
> >  
> > > In xsk mode, users cannot use AF_PACKET(tcpdump) to observe the current
> > > rx/tx data packets. This feature is very important in many cases. So
> > > this patch allows AF_PACKET to obtain xsk packages.  
> >
> > You can use xdpdump to dump the packets from the XDP program before it
> > gets redirected into the XSK:
> > https://github.com/xdp-project/xdp-tools/tree/master/xdp-dump  
> 
> Wow, this is a good idea.

Yes, it is rather cool (credit to Eelco).  Notice the extra info you
can capture from 'exit', like XDP return codes, if_index, rx_queue.

The tool uses the perf ring-buffer to send/copy data to userspace.
This is actually surprisingly fast, but I still think AF_XDP will be
faster (but it usually 'steals' the packet).

Another (crazy?) idea is to extend this (and xdpdump), is to leverage
Hangbin's recent XDP_REDIRECT extension e624d4ed4aa8 ("xdp: Extend
xdp_redirect_map with broadcast support").  We now have a
xdp_redirect_map flag BPF_F_BROADCAST, what if we create a
BPF_F_CLONE_PASS flag?

The semantic meaning of BPF_F_CLONE_PASS flag is to copy/clone the
packet for the specified map target index (e.g AF_XDP map), but
afterwards it does like veth/cpumap and creates an SKB from the
xdp_frame (see __xdp_build_skb_from_frame()) and send to netstack.
(Feel free to kick me if this doesn't make any sense)

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-28  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-28  6:08 [PATCH bpf-next] xsk: support AF_PACKET Xuan Zhuo
2021-05-28  8:27 ` kernel test robot
2021-05-28  8:34 ` kernel test robot
2021-05-28  8:55 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
     [not found]   ` <1622192521.5931044-1-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
2021-05-28  9:25     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-05-28  9:32       ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-05-28  9:50     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2021-05-28 10:00       ` Magnus Karlsson
2021-05-28 10:22         ` Daniel Borkmann
2021-05-28 10:54           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-05-28 11:29             ` Daniel Borkmann
2021-05-28 12:35               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-05-28 12:23           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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