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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Michal Suchanek <msuchanek@suse.de>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
	Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Hritik Vijay <hritikxx8@gmail.com>,
	Linux-BPF <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-Net <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	clm@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mm/page_alloc: Require pahole v1.22 to cope with zero-sized struct pagesets
Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 10:35:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210531093554.GT30378@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzYrfKtecSEbf3yZs5v6aeSkNRJuHfed3kKz-6Vy1eeKuA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 08:10:36PM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 12:42 AM Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 03:17:48PM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > > > Andrii Nakryiko bisected the problem to the commit "mm/page_alloc: convert
> > > > per-cpu list protection to local_lock" currently staged in mmotm. In his
> > > > own words
> > > >
> > > >   The immediate problem is two different definitions of numa_node per-cpu
> > > >   variable. They both are at the same offset within .data..percpu ELF
> > > >   section, they both have the same name, but one of them is marked as
> > > >   static and another as global. And one is int variable, while another
> > > >   is struct pagesets. I'll look some more tomorrow, but adding Jiri and
> > > >   Arnaldo for visibility.
> > > >
> > > >   [110907] DATASEC '.data..percpu' size=178904 vlen=303
> > > >   ...
> > > >         type_id=27753 offset=163976 size=4 (VAR 'numa_node')
> > > >         type_id=27754 offset=163976 size=4 (VAR 'numa_node')
> > > >
> > > >   [27753] VAR 'numa_node' type_id=27556, linkage=static
> > > >   [27754] VAR 'numa_node' type_id=20, linkage=global
> > > >
> > > >   [20] INT 'int' size=4 bits_offset=0 nr_bits=32 encoding=SIGNED
> > > >
> > > >   [27556] STRUCT 'pagesets' size=0 vlen=1
> > > >         'lock' type_id=507 bits_offset=0
> > > >
> > > >   [506] STRUCT '(anon)' size=0 vlen=0
> > > >   [507] TYPEDEF 'local_lock_t' type_id=506
> > > >
> > > > The patch in question introduces a zero-sized per-cpu struct and while
> > > > this is not wrong, versions of pahole prior to 1.22 get confused during
> > > > BTF generation with two separate variables occupying the same address.
> > > >
> > > > This patch adds a requirement for pahole 1.22 before setting
> > > > DEBUG_INFO_BTF.  While pahole 1.22 does not exist yet, a fix is in the
> > > > pahole git tree as ("btf_encoder: fix and complete filtering out zero-sized
> > > > per-CPU variables").
> > > >
> > > > Reported-by: Michal Suchanek <msuchanek@suse.de>
> > > > Reported-by: Hritik Vijay <hritikxx8@gmail.com>
> > > > Debugged-by: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
> > > > ---
> > >
> > > I still think that v1 ([0]) is a more appropriate temporary solution
> > > until pahole 1.22 is released and widely packaged. Suddenly raising
> > > the minimum version to 1.22, which is not even released even, is a
> > > pretty big compatibility concern for all the users that rely on
> > > CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_BTF.
> >
> > On the flip side, we have a situation where a build tool (pahole) has a
> > problem whereby correct code does not result in a working kernel. It's
> > not that dissimilar to preventing the kernel being built on an old
> > compiler. While I accept it's unfortunate, Christoph had a point where
> > introducing workarounds in the kernel could lead to a prolification of
> > workarounds for pahole or other reasons that are potentially tricky to
> > revert as long as distributions exist that do not ship with a sufficiently
> > reason package.
> >
> > > Just a few days ago pahole 1.16 worked fine and
> > > here we suddenly (and silently due to how Kconfig functions) raise
> > > that to a version that doesn't exist. That's going to break workflows
> > > for a lot of people.
> > >
> >
> > People do have a workaround though. For the system building the kernel,
> > they can patch pahole and revert the check so a bootable kernel can be
> > built. It's not convenient but it is manageable and pahole has until
> > 5.13 releases to release a v1.22. The downsides for the alternative --
> > a non-booting kernel are much more severe.
> >
> > > I'm asking to have that ugly work-around to ensure sizeof(struct
> > > pagesets) > 0 as a temporary solution only.
> >
> > Another temporary solution is to locally build pahole and either revert
> > the check or fake the 1.22 release number with the self-built pahole.
> >
> 
> Well, luckily it seems we anticipated issues like that and added
> --skip_encoding_btf_vars argument, which I completely forgot about and
> just accidentally came across reviewing Arnaldo's latest pahole patch.
> I think that one is a much better solution, as then it will impact
> only those that explicitly relies on availability of BTF for per-CPU
> variables, which is a subset of all possible uses for kernel BTF. Sent
> a patch ([0]), please take a look.
> 
>   [0] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20210530002536.3193829-1-andrii@kernel.org/T/#u

I'm happy to have this patch used as an alternative to forcing 1.22 to
be the minimum version of pahole required.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-31  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-27 17:19 [PATCH v3] mm/page_alloc: Require pahole v1.22 to cope with zero-sized struct pagesets Mel Gorman
2021-05-27 22:17 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-05-28  7:42   ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-30  3:10     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-05-31  9:35       ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2021-07-15 19:44         ` Michal Suchánek
2021-07-16  8:07           ` Mel Gorman

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