* Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm/page_alloc: Allow high-order pages to be stored on the per-cpu lists
[not found] ` <20210531120412.17411-3-mgorman@techsingularity.net>
@ 2021-05-31 15:23 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-06-01 12:45 ` Mel Gorman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer @ 2021-05-31 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mel Gorman
Cc: Linux-MM, Dave Hansen, Vlastimil Babka, Michal Hocko, LKML,
brouer, netdev@vger.kernel.org
On Mon, 31 May 2021 13:04:12 +0100
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net> wrote:
> The per-cpu page allocator (PCP) only stores order-0 pages. This means
> that all THP and "cheap" high-order allocations including SLUB contends
> on the zone->lock. This patch extends the PCP allocator to store THP and
> "cheap" high-order pages. Note that struct per_cpu_pages increases in
> size to 256 bytes (4 cache lines) on x86-64.
>
> Note that this is not necessarily a universal performance win because of
> how it is implemented. High-order pages can cause pcp->high to be exceeded
> prematurely for lower-orders so for example, a large number of THP pages
> being freed could release order-0 pages from the PCP lists. Hence, much
> depends on the allocation/free pattern as observed by a single CPU to
> determine if caching helps or hurts a particular workload.
>
> That said, basic performance testing passed. The following is a netperf
> UDP_STREAM test which hits the relevant patches as some of the network
> allocations are high-order.
This series[1] looks very interesting! I confirm that some network
allocations do use high-order allocations. Thus, I think this will
increase network performance in general, like you confirm below:
> netperf-udp
> 5.13.0-rc2 5.13.0-rc2
> mm-pcpburst-v3r4 mm-pcphighorder-v1r7
> Hmean send-64 261.46 ( 0.00%) 266.30 * 1.85%*
> Hmean send-128 516.35 ( 0.00%) 536.78 * 3.96%*
> Hmean send-256 1014.13 ( 0.00%) 1034.63 * 2.02%*
> Hmean send-1024 3907.65 ( 0.00%) 4046.11 * 3.54%*
> Hmean send-2048 7492.93 ( 0.00%) 7754.85 * 3.50%*
> Hmean send-3312 11410.04 ( 0.00%) 11772.32 * 3.18%*
> Hmean send-4096 13521.95 ( 0.00%) 13912.34 * 2.89%*
> Hmean send-8192 21660.50 ( 0.00%) 22730.72 * 4.94%*
> Hmean send-16384 31902.32 ( 0.00%) 32637.50 * 2.30%*
>
> From a functional point of view, a patch like this is necessary to
> make bulk allocation of high-order pages work with similar performance
> to order-0 bulk allocations. The bulk allocator is not updated in this
> series as it would have to be determined by bulk allocation users how
> they want to track the order of pages allocated with the bulk allocator.
Thanks for working on this Mel, it is great to see! :-)
Message-Id: <20210531120412.17411-3-mgorman@techsingularity.net>
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20210531120412.17411-3-mgorman@techsingularity.net/
--
Best regards,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer
MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer
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* Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm/page_alloc: Allow high-order pages to be stored on the per-cpu lists
2021-05-31 15:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/page_alloc: Allow high-order pages to be stored on the per-cpu lists Jesper Dangaard Brouer
@ 2021-06-01 12:45 ` Mel Gorman
2021-06-02 13:53 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Mel Gorman @ 2021-06-01 12:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer
Cc: Linux-MM, Dave Hansen, Vlastimil Babka, Michal Hocko, LKML,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 05:23:38PM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2021 13:04:12 +0100
> Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net> wrote:
>
> > The per-cpu page allocator (PCP) only stores order-0 pages. This means
> > that all THP and "cheap" high-order allocations including SLUB contends
> > on the zone->lock. This patch extends the PCP allocator to store THP and
> > "cheap" high-order pages. Note that struct per_cpu_pages increases in
> > size to 256 bytes (4 cache lines) on x86-64.
> >
> > Note that this is not necessarily a universal performance win because of
> > how it is implemented. High-order pages can cause pcp->high to be exceeded
> > prematurely for lower-orders so for example, a large number of THP pages
> > being freed could release order-0 pages from the PCP lists. Hence, much
> > depends on the allocation/free pattern as observed by a single CPU to
> > determine if caching helps or hurts a particular workload.
> >
> > That said, basic performance testing passed. The following is a netperf
> > UDP_STREAM test which hits the relevant patches as some of the network
> > allocations are high-order.
>
> This series[1] looks very interesting! I confirm that some network
> allocations do use high-order allocations. Thus, I think this will
> increase network performance in general, like you confirm below:
>
Would you be able to do a small test on a real high-speed network? It's
something I can do easily myself in a few weeks but I do not have testbed
readily available at the moment. It's ok if you do not have the time,
it would just be nice if I could include independent results in the
changelog if the results are positive. Alternatively, a negative result
would mean going back to the drawing board :)
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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* Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm/page_alloc: Allow high-order pages to be stored on the per-cpu lists
2021-06-01 12:45 ` Mel Gorman
@ 2021-06-02 13:53 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer @ 2021-06-02 13:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mel Gorman
Cc: Linux-MM, Dave Hansen, Vlastimil Babka, Michal Hocko, LKML,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, brouer
On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 13:45:33 +0100
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net> wrote:
> On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 05:23:38PM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > On Mon, 31 May 2021 13:04:12 +0100
> > Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net> wrote:
> >
> > > The per-cpu page allocator (PCP) only stores order-0 pages. This means
> > > that all THP and "cheap" high-order allocations including SLUB contends
> > > on the zone->lock. This patch extends the PCP allocator to store THP and
> > > "cheap" high-order pages. Note that struct per_cpu_pages increases in
> > > size to 256 bytes (4 cache lines) on x86-64.
> > >
> > > Note that this is not necessarily a universal performance win because of
> > > how it is implemented. High-order pages can cause pcp->high to be exceeded
> > > prematurely for lower-orders so for example, a large number of THP pages
> > > being freed could release order-0 pages from the PCP lists. Hence, much
> > > depends on the allocation/free pattern as observed by a single CPU to
> > > determine if caching helps or hurts a particular workload.
> > >
> > > That said, basic performance testing passed. The following is a netperf
> > > UDP_STREAM test which hits the relevant patches as some of the network
> > > allocations are high-order.
> >
> > This series[1] looks very interesting! I confirm that some network
> > allocations do use high-order allocations. Thus, I think this will
> > increase network performance in general, like you confirm below:
> >
>
> Would you be able to do a small test on a real high-speed network? It's
> something I can do easily myself in a few weeks but I do not have testbed
> readily available at the moment. It's ok if you do not have the time,
> it would just be nice if I could include independent results in the
> changelog if the results are positive.
I don't have time right now.
If others have time, you can use this git tree provided by Mel:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mel/linux.git/
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mel/linux.git
branch: mm-pcphighorder-v1r7
> Alternatively, a negative result would mean going back to the drawing
> board :)
I'm confident that this will be a positive performance change. (I
remember we played with similar patches back in 2017).
--
Best regards,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer
MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer
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