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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
Cc: Dongdong Liu <liudongdong3@huawei.com>,
	hch@infradead.org, kw@linux.com, leon@kernel.org,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, rajur@chelsio.com,
	hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V10 6/8] PCI/P2PDMA: Add a 10-Bit Tag check in P2PDMA
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 20:39:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211028013934.GA267985@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <136155cc-d28c-ef36-c69b-557f7af456be@deltatee.com>

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 05:41:07PM -0600, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
> On 2021-10-27 5:11 p.m., Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> >> @@ -532,6 +577,9 @@ calc_map_type_and_dist(struct pci_dev *provider, struct pci_dev *client,
> >>  		map_type = PCI_P2PDMA_MAP_NOT_SUPPORTED;
> >>  	}
> >>  done:
> >> +	if (pci_10bit_tags_unsupported(client, provider, verbose))
> >> +		map_type = PCI_P2PDMA_MAP_NOT_SUPPORTED;
> > 
> > I need to be convinced that this check is in the right spot to catch
> > all potential P2PDMA situations.  The pci_p2pmem_find() and
> > pci_p2pdma_distance() interfaces eventually call
> > calc_map_type_and_dist().  But those interfaces don't actually produce
> > DMA bus addresses, and I'm not convinced that all P2PDMA users use
> > them.
> > 
> > nvme *does* use them, but infiniband (rdma_rw_map_sg()) does not, and
> > it calls pci_p2pdma_map_sg().
> 
> The rules of the current code is that calc_map_type_and_dist() must be
> called before pci_p2pdma_map_sg(). The calc function caches the mapping
> type in an xarray. If it was not called ahead of time,
> pci_p2pdma_map_type() will return PCI_P2PDMA_MAP_NOT_SUPPORTED, and the
> WARN_ON_ONCE will be hit in
> pci_p2pdma_map_sg_attrs().

Seems like it requires fairly deep analysis to prove all this.  Is
this something we don't want to put directly in the map path because
it's a hot path, or it just doesn't fit there in the model, or ...?

> Both NVMe and RDMA (only used in the nvme fabrics code) do the correct
> thing here and we can be sure calc_map_type_and_dist() is called before
> any pages are mapped.
> 
> The patch set I'm currently working on will ensure that
> calc_map_type_and_dist() is called before anyone maps a PCI P2PDMA page
> with dma_map_sg*().
> 
> > amdgpu_dma_buf_attach() calls pci_p2pdma_distance_many() but I don't
> > know where it sets up P2PDMA transactions.
> 
> The amdgpu driver hacked this in before proper support was done, but at
> least it's using pci_p2pdma_distance_many() presumably before trying any
> transfer. Though it's likely broken as it doesn't take into account the
> mapping type and thus I think it always assumes traffic goes through the
> host bridge (seeing it doesn't use pci_p2pdma_map_sg()).

What does it mean to go through the host bridge?  Obviously DMA to
system memory would go through the host bridge, but this seems
different.  Is this a "between PCI hierarchies" case like to a device
below a different root port?  I don't know what the tag rules are for
that.

> > cxgb4 and qed mention "peer2peer", but I don't know whether they are
> > related; they don't seem to use any pci_p2p.* interfaces.
> 
> I'm really not sure what these drivers are doing at all. However, I
> think this is unrelated based on this old patch description[1]:
> 
>   Open MPI, Intel MPI and other applications don't support the iWARP
>   requirement that the client side send the first RDMA message. This
>   class of application connection setup is called peer-2-peer. Typically
>   once the connection is setup, _both_ sides want to send data.
> 
>   This patch enables supporting peer-2-peer over the chelsio rnic by
>   enforcing this iWARP requirement in the driver itself as part of RDMA
>   connection setup.

Thanks!

> Logan
> 
> [1] http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0804.3/1416.html

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-28  1:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-09 10:49 [PATCH V10 0/8] PCI: Enable 10-Bit tag support for PCIe devices Dongdong Liu
2021-10-09 10:49 ` [PATCH V10 1/8] PCI: Use cached devcap in more places Dongdong Liu
2021-10-09 10:49 ` [PATCH V10 2/8] PCI: Cache Device Capabilities 2 Register Dongdong Liu
2021-10-09 10:49 ` [PATCH V10 3/8] PCI: Add 10-Bit Tag register definitions Dongdong Liu
2021-10-09 10:49 ` [PATCH V10 4/8] PCI/sysfs: Add a 10-Bit Tag sysfs file PCIe Endpoint devices Dongdong Liu
2021-10-27 22:28   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-10-28  7:44     ` Dongdong Liu
2021-10-28 17:24       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-10-29  7:16         ` Dongdong Liu
2021-10-09 10:49 ` [PATCH V10 5/8] PCI/IOV: Add 10-Bit Tag sysfs files for VF devices Dongdong Liu
2021-10-09 10:49 ` [PATCH V10 6/8] PCI/P2PDMA: Add a 10-Bit Tag check in P2PDMA Dongdong Liu
2021-10-27 21:20   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-10-28  7:56     ` Dongdong Liu
2021-10-27 23:11   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-10-27 23:41     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-10-28  1:39       ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2021-10-28 15:56         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-10-09 10:49 ` [PATCH V10 7/8] PCI: Enable 10-Bit Tag support for PCIe Endpoint device Dongdong Liu
2021-10-09 10:49 ` [PATCH V10 8/8] PCI/IOV: Enable 10-Bit Tag support for PCIe VF devices Dongdong Liu

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