From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 2/7] set_memory: introduce set_memory_[ro|x]_noalias
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 23:01:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211117220132.GC174703@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <768FB93A-E239-4B21-A0F1-C1206112E37E@fb.com>
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 09:36:27PM +0000, Song Liu wrote:
>
>
> > On Nov 16, 2021, at 12:00 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 11:13:42PM -0800, Song Liu wrote:
> >> These allow setting ro/x for module_alloc() mapping, while leave the
> >> linear mapping rw/nx.
> >
> > This needs a very strong rationale for *why*. How does this not
> > trivially circumvent W^X ?
>
> In this case, we want to have multiple BPF programs sharing the 2MB page.
> When the JIT engine is working on one program, we would rather existing
> BPF programs on the same page stay on RO+X mapping (the module_alloc()
> address). The solution in this version is to let the JIT engine write to
> the page via linear address.
>
> An alternative is to only use the module_alloc() address, and flip the
> read-only bit (of the whole 2MB page) back and forth. However, this
> requires some serialization among different JIT jobs.
Neither options seem acceptible to me as they both violate W^X.
Please have a close look at arch/x86/kernel/alternative.c:__text_poke()
for how we modify active text. I think that or something very similar is
the only option. By having an alias in a special (user) address space
that is not accessible by any other CPU, only the poking CPU can expoit
this (temporary) hole, which is a much larger ask than any of the
proposed options.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-17 22:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20211116071347.520327-1-songliubraving@fb.com>
[not found] ` <20211116071347.520327-3-songliubraving@fb.com>
2021-11-16 8:00 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/7] set_memory: introduce set_memory_[ro|x]_noalias Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-17 21:36 ` Song Liu
2021-11-17 22:01 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2021-11-17 23:57 ` Song Liu
2021-11-18 0:11 ` Song Liu
2021-11-18 7:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-18 17:16 ` Song Liu
2021-11-18 18:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-18 18:39 ` Song Liu
2021-11-18 18:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-19 4:14 ` Song Liu
2021-11-19 9:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-19 16:06 ` Johannes Weiner
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