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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Martyn Welch <martyn.welch@collabora.com>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, kernel@collabora.com
Subject: Re: mv88e6240 configuration broken for B850v3
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 23:44:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211206214428.qaavetaml2thggqo@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ya5wFvijUQVwvat7@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 08:18:30PM +0000, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > If we're going to impersonate phylink we could at least provide the same
> > arguments as phylink will.
> 
> What is going on here in terms of impersonation is entirely reasonable.
> 
> The only things in this respect that phylink guarantees are:
> 
> 1) The MAC/PCS configuration will not be substantially reconfigured
>    unless a call to mac_link_down() was made if a call to mac_link_up()
>    was previously made.

The wording here is unclear. Did you mean "When the MAC/PCS configuration
is substantially reconfigured and the last call was a mac_link_up(), a
follow-up call to mac_link_down() will also be made"?

And what do you mean by "substantially reconfigured"?
phylink_major_config called from the paths that aren't phylink_mac_initial_config
(because that happens with no preceding call to either mac_link_down or
mac_link_up), right?

> 2) The arguments to mac_link_down() will be the same as the preceeding
>    mac_link_up() call - in other words, the "mode" and "interface".

Does this imply that "there will always be a preceding mac_link_up to
every mac_link_down call"? Because if it does imply that, DSA violates it.

> Phylink does *not* guarantee that a call to mac_link_up() or
> mac_config() will have the same "mode" as a preceeding call to
> mac_link_down(), in the same way that "interface" is not guaranteed.
> This has been true for as long as we've had SFPs that need to switch
> between MLO_AN_INBAND and MLO_AN_PHY - e.g. because the PHY doesn't
> supply in-band information.
> 
> So, this has uncovered a latent bug in the Marvell DSA code - and
> that is that mac_config() needs to take care of the forcing state
> after completing its configuration as I suggested in my previous
> reply.
> 
> There is also the question whether the automatic fetching of PHY
> status information by the hardware should be regarded as a form of
> in-band by phylink, even though it isn't true in-band - but from
> the software point of view, the PPU's automatic fetching is not
> materially different from what happens with SGMII.
> 
> -- 
> RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
> FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-06 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-03  9:06 mv88e6240 configuration broken for B850v3 Martyn Welch
2021-12-03 16:25 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-06 17:44   ` Martyn Welch
2021-12-06 18:26     ` Martyn Welch
2021-12-06 18:31       ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-06 18:37         ` Martyn Welch
2021-12-06 18:50           ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-06 19:24             ` Martyn Welch
2021-12-06 19:37               ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-06 19:53                 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-06 20:01                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-06 20:18                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-06 20:29                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-07 14:09                         ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-06 21:44                       ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2021-12-06 22:13                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-06 20:07                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-06 20:23                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-06 20:51                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-06 21:13                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-06 21:27                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-06 21:49                           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-06 23:27                             ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-07  0:58                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-07 13:24                                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-07 13:59                                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-07 14:37                                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-07 14:53                                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-06 21:51                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-06 22:17                             ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-06 22:22                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-06 23:44                               ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-07  2:06                                 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-07 12:48                                   ` Vladimir Oltean

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