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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: Ansuel Smith <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [net-next RFC PATCH v2 0/8] Add support for qca8k mdio rw in Ethernet packet
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 14:32:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211208123222.pcljtugpq5clikhq@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211208034040.14457-1-ansuelsmth@gmail.com>

On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 04:40:32AM +0100, Ansuel Smith wrote:
> I still have to find a solution to a slowdown problem and this is where
> I would love to get some hint.
> Currently I still didn't find a good way to understand when the tagger
> starts to accept packets and because of this the initial setup is slow
> as every completion timeouts. Am I missing something or is there a way
> to check for this?
> After the initial slowdown, as soon as the cpu port is ready and starts
> to accept packet, every transaction is near instant and no completion
> timeouts.

My guess is that the problem with the initial slowdown is that you try
to use the Ethernet based register access before things are set up:
before the master is up and ready, before the switch is minimally set
up, etc.

I think what this Ethernet-based register access technique needs to be
more reliable is a notification about the DSA master going up or down.
Otherwise it won't be very efficient at all, to wait for every single
Ethernet access attempt to time out before attempting a direct MDIO
access.

But there are some problems with offering a "master_going_up/master_going_down"
set of callbacks. Specifically, we could easily hook into the NETDEV_PRE_UP/
NETDEV_GOING_DOWN netdev notifiers and transform these into DSA switch
API calls. The goal would be for the qca8k tagger to mark the
Ethernet-based register access method as available/unavailable, and in
the regmap implementation, to use that or the other. DSA would then also
be responsible for calling "master_going_up" when the switch ports and
master are sufficiently initialized that traffic should be possible.
But that first "master_going_up" notification is in fact the most
problematic one, because we may not receive a NETDEV_PRE_UP event,
because the DSA master may already be up when we probe our switch tree.
This would be a bit finicky to get right. We may, for instance, hold
rtnl_lock for the entirety of dsa_tree_setup_master(). This will block
potentially concurrent netdevice notifiers handled by dsa_slave_nb.
And while holding rtnl_lock() and immediately after each dsa_master_setup(),
we may check whether master->flags & IFF_UP is true, and if it is,
synthesize a call to ds->ops->master_going_up(). We also need to do the
reverse in dsa_tree_teardown_master().

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-08 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-08  3:40 [net-next RFC PATCH v2 0/8] Add support for qca8k mdio rw in Ethernet packet Ansuel Smith
2021-12-08  3:40 ` [net-next RFC PATCH v2 1/8] net: das: Introduce support for tagger private data control Ansuel Smith
2021-12-08  3:40 ` [net-next RFC PATCH v2 2/8] net: dsa: Permit dsa driver to configure additional tagger data Ansuel Smith
2021-12-08  3:40 ` [net-next RFC PATCH v2 3/8] net: dsa: tag_qca: convert to FIELD macro Ansuel Smith
2021-12-08  3:40 ` [net-next RFC PATCH v2 4/8] net: dsa: tag_qca: move define to include linux/dsa Ansuel Smith
2021-12-08  3:40 ` [net-next RFC PATCH v2 5/8] net: dsa: tag_qca: add define for mdio read/write in ethernet packet Ansuel Smith
2021-12-08  3:40 ` [net-next RFC PATCH v2 6/8] net: dsa: tag_qca: Add support for handling Ethernet mdio and MIB packet Ansuel Smith
2021-12-08  3:40 ` [net-next RFC PATCH v2 7/8] net: dsa: qca8k: Add support for mdio read/write in Ethernet packet Ansuel Smith
2021-12-08 12:18   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08 14:21     ` Ansuel Smith
2021-12-08 14:42       ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08  3:40 ` [net-next RFC PATCH v2 8/8] net: dsa: qca8k: cache lo and hi for mdio write Ansuel Smith
2021-12-08 12:32 ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2021-12-08 14:33   ` [net-next RFC PATCH v2 0/8] Add support for qca8k mdio rw in Ethernet packet Ansuel Smith
2021-12-08 14:53     ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08 14:58       ` Ansuel Smith
2021-12-09  2:59       ` Ansuel Smith

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