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From: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, "Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <kafai@fb.com>,
	"Song Liu" <songliubraving@fb.com>, "Yonghong Song" <yhs@fb.com>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Maxim Mikityanskiy" <maximmi@nvidia.com>,
	"Pablo Neira Ayuso" <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	"Florian Westphal" <fw@strlen.de>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <brouer@redhat.com>,
	"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v7 02/10] bpf: Populate kfunc BTF ID sets in struct btf
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 10:51:29 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220114052129.dwx7tvdjrwokw5sc@apollo.legion> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220114044950.24jr6juxbuzxskw2@apollo.legion>

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:19:50AM IST, Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 04:02:11AM IST, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:34:20PM +0530, Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > +	/* Make sure all updates are visible before we go to MODULE_STATE_LIVE,
> > > +	 * pairs with smp_rmb in btf_try_get_module (for success case).
> > > +	 *
> > > +	 * btf_populate_kfunc_set(...)
> > > +	 * smp_wmb()	<-----------.
> > > +	 * mod->state = LIVE	    |		if (mod->state == LIVE)
> > > +	 *			    |		  atomic_inc_nz(mod)
> > > +	 *			    `--------->	  smp_rmb()
> > > +	 *					  btf_kfunc_id_set_contains(...)
> > > +	 */
> > > +	smp_wmb();
> >
> > This comment somehow implies that mod->state = LIVE
> > and if (mod->state == LIVE && try_mod_get) can race.
> > That's not the case.
> > The patch 1 closed the race.
> > btf_kfunc_id_set_contains() will be called only on LIVE modules.
> > At that point all __init funcs of the module including register_btf_kfunc_id_set()
> > have completed.
> > This smp_wmb/rmb pair serves no purpose.
> > Unless I'm missing something?
> >
>
> Right, I'm no expert on memory ordering, but even if we closed the race, to me
> there seems to be no reason why the CPU cannot reorder the stores to tab (or its
> hook/type slot) with mod->state = LIVE store.
>
> Usually, the visibility is handled by whatever lock is used to register the
> module somewhere in some subsystem, as the next acquirer can see all updates
> from the previous registration.
>
> In this case, we're directly assigning a pointer without holding any locks etc.
> While it won't be concurrently accessed until module state is LIVE, it is
> necessary to make all updates visible in the right order (that is, once state is
> LIVE, everything stored previously in struct btf for module is also visible).
>
> Once mod->state = LIVE is visible, we will start accessing kfunc_set_tab, but if
> previous stores to it were not visible by then, we'll access a badly-formed
> kfunc_set_tab.
>
> For this particular case, you can think of mod->state = LIVE acting as a release
> store, and the read for mod->state == LIVE acting as an acquire load.
>

Also, to be more precise, we're now synchronizing using btf_mod->flags, not
mod->state, so I should atleast update the comment, but the idea is the same.

> But I'm probably being overtly cautious, please let me know why.
>

--
Kartikeya

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-14  5:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-11 18:04 [PATCH bpf-next v7 00/10] Introduce unstable CT lookup helpers Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-01-11 18:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 01/10] bpf: Fix UAF due to race between btf_try_get_module and load_module Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-01-11 18:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 02/10] bpf: Populate kfunc BTF ID sets in struct btf Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-01-13 22:32   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-01-14  4:49     ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-01-14  5:21       ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi [this message]
2022-01-14  6:52         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-01-14  7:46           ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-01-11 18:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 03/10] bpf: Remove check_kfunc_call callback and old kfunc BTF ID API Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-01-11 18:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 04/10] bpf: Introduce mem, size argument pair support for kfunc Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-01-11 18:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 05/10] bpf: Add reference tracking support to kfunc Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-01-11 18:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 06/10] net/netfilter: Add unstable CT lookup helpers for XDP and TC-BPF Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-01-11 18:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 07/10] selftests/bpf: Add test for unstable CT lookup API Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-01-13 22:35   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-01-14  4:51     ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-01-11 18:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 08/10] selftests/bpf: Add test_verifier support to fixup kfunc call insns Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-01-11 18:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 09/10] selftests/bpf: Extend kfunc selftests Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-01-11 18:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 10/10] selftests/bpf: Add test for race in btf_try_get_module Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi

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