From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>
Cc: Alexandra Winter <wintera@linux.ibm.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@gmail.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
Roopa Prabhu <roopa@nvidia.com>,
bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>,
Jay Vosburgh <j.vosburgh@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2] veth: Support bonding events
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 10:12:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220330101256.53f6ef48@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c512e765-f411-9305-013b-471a07e7f3ff@blackwall.org>
On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 19:16:42 +0300 Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
> > Maybe opt-out? But assuming the event is only generated on
> > active/backup switch over - when would it be okay to ignore
> > the notification?
>
> Let me just clarify, so I'm sure I've not misunderstood you. Do you mean opt-out as in
> make it default on? IMO that would be a problem, large scale setups would suddenly
> start propagating it to upper devices which would cause a lot of unnecessary bcast.
> I meant enable it only if needed, and only on specific ports (second part is not
> necessary, could be global, I think it's ok either way). I don't think any setup
> which has many upper vlans/macvlans would ever enable this.
That may be. I don't have a good understanding of scenarios in which
GARP is required and where it's not :) Goes without saying but the
default should follow the more common scenario.
> >> My concern was about the Hangbin's alternative proposal to notify all
> >> bridge ports. I hope in my porposal I was able to avoid infinite loops.
> >
> > Possibly I'm confused as to where the notification for bridge master
> > gets sent..
>
> IIUC it bypasses the bridge and sends a notify peers for the veth peer so it would
> generate a grat arp (inetdev_event -> NETDEV_NOTIFY_PEERS).
Ack, I was basically repeating the question of where does
the notification with dev == br get generated.
There is a protection in this patch to make sure the other
end of the veth is not plugged into a bridge (i.e. is not
a bridge port) but there can be a macvlan on top of that
veth that is part of a bridge, so IIUC that check is either
insufficient or unnecessary.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-30 17:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-29 11:40 [PATCH net-next v2] veth: Support bonding events Alexandra Winter
2022-03-30 0:54 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-03-30 10:23 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-03-30 11:14 ` Alexandra Winter
2022-03-30 11:25 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-03-30 15:51 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-03-30 16:16 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-03-30 17:12 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2022-03-30 19:15 ` Jay Vosburgh
2022-03-31 9:59 ` Alexandra Winter
2022-03-31 10:33 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-03-31 12:07 ` Alexandra Winter
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