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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: Ismael Luceno <iluceno@suse.de>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Netlink NLM_F_DUMP_INTR flag lost
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 09:36:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220623093609.1b104859@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bd76637b-0404-12e3-37b6-4bdedd625965@gmail.com>

On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 10:17:17 -0600 David Ahern wrote:
> > Yup, the question for me is what's the risk / benefit of sending 
> > the empty message vs putting the _DUMP_INTR on the next family.
> > I'm leaning towards putting it on the next family and treating 
> > the entire dump as interrupted, do you reckon that's suboptimal?  
> 
> I think it is going to be misleading; the INTR flag needs to be set on
> the dump that is affected.

Right, it's a bit of a philosophical discussion but dump is delineated
but NLMSG_DONE. PF_UNSPEC dump is a single dump, not a group of multiple
independent per-family dumps. If we think of a nlmsg as a representation
of an object having an empty one is awkward. What if someone does a dump
to just count objects? Too speculative?

I guess one can argue either way, no empty messages is a weaker promise
and hopefully lower risk, hence my preference. Do you feel strongly for
the message? Do we flip a coin? :)

> All of the dumps should be checking the consistency at the end of the
> dump - regardless of any remaining entries on a particular round (e.g.,
> I mentioned this what the nexthop dump does). Worst case then is DONE
> and INTR are set on the same message with no data, but it tells
> explicitly the set of data affected.

Okay, perhaps we should put a WARN_ON_ONCE(seq && seq != prev_seq)
in rtnl_dump_all() then, to catch those who get it wrong.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-23 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20220615171113.7d93af3e@pirotess>
2022-06-15 16:00 ` Netlink NLM_F_DUMP_INTR flag lost Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-16 15:10   ` Ismael Luceno
2022-06-17  0:16     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-17 13:01       ` Ismael Luceno
2022-06-17 14:55         ` David Ahern
2022-06-17 15:22           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-17 16:17             ` David Ahern
2022-06-17 16:28             ` David Ahern
2022-08-24 10:59               ` Ismael Luceno
2022-08-24 11:46                 ` Florian Westphal
2022-06-22 11:12         ` Ismael Luceno
2022-06-22 23:55           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-23  4:01             ` David Ahern
2022-06-23 16:03               ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-23 16:17                 ` David Ahern
2022-06-23 16:36                   ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2022-06-23 17:31                     ` David Ahern
2022-06-23 19:03                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-28 19:38                         ` Ismael Luceno

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