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From: "Pali Rohár" <pali@kernel.org>
To: Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@seco.com>
Cc: "Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>,
	"Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	"Tim Harvey" <tharvey@gateworks.com>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, u-boot <u-boot@lists.denx.de>,
	"Device Tree Mailing List" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ethernet<n> dt aliases implications in U-Boot and Linux
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2022 23:42:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220809214207.bd4o7yzloi4npzf7@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b1b33912-8898-f42d-5f30-0ca050fccf9a@seco.com>

On Tuesday 09 August 2022 17:36:52 Sean Anderson wrote:
> On 8/9/22 5:31 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Tuesday 09 August 2022 16:48:23 Sean Anderson wrote:
> >> On 8/8/22 5:45 PM, Michal Suchánek wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 02:38:35PM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 23:09:45 +0200
> >> >> Michal Suchánek <msuchanek@suse.de> wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 03:57:55PM -0400, Sean Anderson wrote:
> >> >> > > Hi Tim,
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > On 8/8/22 3:18 PM, Tim Harvey wrote:  
> >> >> > > > Greetings,
> >> >> > > > 
> >> >> > > > I'm trying to understand if there is any implication of 'ethernet<n>'
> >> >> > > > aliases in Linux such as:
> >> >> > > >         aliases {
> >> >> > > >                 ethernet0 = &eqos;
> >> >> > > >                 ethernet1 = &fec;
> >> >> > > >                 ethernet2 = &lan1;
> >> >> > > >                 ethernet3 = &lan2;
> >> >> > > >                 ethernet4 = &lan3;
> >> >> > > >                 ethernet5 = &lan4;
> >> >> > > >                 ethernet6 = &lan5;
> >> >> > > >         };
> >> >> > > > 
> >> >> > > > I know U-Boot boards that use device-tree will use these aliases to
> >> >> > > > name the devices in U-Boot such that the device with alias 'ethernet0'
> >> >> > > > becomes eth0 and alias 'ethernet1' becomes eth1 but for Linux it
> >> >> > > > appears that the naming of network devices that are embedded (ie SoC)
> >> >> > > > vs enumerated (ie pci/usb) are always based on device registration
> >> >> > > > order which for static drivers depends on Makefile linking order and
> >> >> > > > has nothing to do with device-tree.
> >> >> > > > 
> >> >> > > > Is there currently any way to control network device naming in Linux
> >> >> > > > other than udev?  
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > You can also use systemd-networkd et al. (but that is the same kind of mechanism)
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > > Does Linux use the ethernet<n> aliases for anything at all?  
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > No :l  
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Maybe it's a great opportunity for porting biosdevname to DT based
> >> >> > platforms ;-)
> >> >> 
> >> >> Sorry, biosdevname was wrong way to do things.
> >> >> Did you look at the internals, it was dumpster diving as root into BIOS.
> >> > 
> >> > When it's BIOS what defines the names then you have to read them from
> >> > the BIOS. Recently it was updated to use some sysfs file or whatver.
> >> > It's not like you would use any of that code with DT, anyway.
> >> > 
> >> >> Systemd-networkd does things in much more supportable manner using existing
> >> >> sysfs API's.
> >> > 
> >> > Which is a dumpster of systemd code, no thanks.
> >> > 
> >> > I want my device naming independent of the init system, especially if
> >> > it's systemd.
> >> 
> >> Well, there's always nameif...
> >> 
> >> That said, I have made [1] for people using systemd-networkd.
> >> 
> >> --Sean
> >> 
> >> [1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/24265
> > 
> > Hello!
> > 
> > In some cases "label" DT property can be used also as interface name.
> > For example this property is already used by DSA kernel driver.
> > 
> > I created very simple script which renames all interfaces in system to
> > their "label" DT property (if there is any defined).
> > 
> > #!/bin/sh
> > for iface in `ls /sys/class/net/`; do
> > 	for of_node in of_node device/of_node; do
> > 		if test -e /sys/class/net/$iface/$of_node/; then
> > 			label=`cat /sys/class/net/$iface/$of_node/label 2>/dev/null`
> > 			if test -n "$label" && test "$label" != "$iface"; then
> > 				echo "Renaming net interface $iface to $label..."
> > 				up=$((`cat /sys/class/net/$iface/flags 2>/dev/null || echo 1` & 0x1))
> > 				if test "$up" != "0"; then
> > 					ip link set dev $iface down
> > 				fi
> > 				ip link set dev $iface name "$label" && iface=$label
> > 				if test "$up" != "0"; then
> > 					ip link set dev $iface up
> > 				fi
> > 			fi
> > 			break
> > 		fi
> > 	done
> > done
> > 
> > Maybe it would be better first to use "label" and then use ethernet alias?
> > 
> 
> It looks like there is already precedent for using ID_NET_LABEL_ONBOARD for
> this purpose (on SMBios boards). It should be a fairly simple extension to
> add that as well. However, I didn't find any uses of this in Linux or U-Boot
> (although I did find plenty of ethernet LEDs). Do you have an example you
> could point me to?
> 
> --Sean

In linux:
$ git grep '"label"' net/dsa/dsa2.c
net/dsa/dsa2.c: const char *name = of_get_property(dn, "label", NULL);

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-09 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-08 19:18 ethernet<n> dt aliases implications in U-Boot and Linux Tim Harvey
2022-08-08 19:57 ` Sean Anderson
2022-08-08 21:09   ` Michal Suchánek
2022-08-08 21:38     ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-08-08 21:45       ` Michal Suchánek
2022-08-09 20:48         ` Sean Anderson
2022-08-09 21:31           ` Pali Rohár
2022-08-09 21:36             ` Sean Anderson
2022-08-09 21:42               ` Pali Rohár [this message]
2022-08-09 22:41                 ` Sean Anderson
2022-08-09 22:42                   ` Tim Harvey
2022-08-09 22:45                   ` Pali Rohár
2022-08-09 23:17                     ` Tim Harvey
2022-08-10  1:11                       ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-10  7:16                         ` Michal Suchánek
2022-08-10 15:17                           ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-10 15:35                             ` Michal Suchánek
2022-08-11 19:43                               ` Sean Anderson
2022-08-20  9:16                     ` Pali Rohár
2022-08-20 13:02                       ` Sean Anderson
2022-08-09 21:39             ` Tim Harvey
2022-08-09 21:45               ` Pali Rohár
2022-08-09 21:58               ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-08-10  9:56               ` Francesco Dolcini
2022-08-23 19:21               ` Rob Herring
2022-08-09 21:35           ` Tim Harvey
2022-08-09 21:41             ` Sean Anderson
2022-08-08 21:18   ` Tim Harvey
2022-08-08 21:18   ` Florian Fainelli
2022-08-08 21:28     ` Tim Harvey
2022-08-08 21:34       ` Florian Fainelli
2022-08-08 21:40         ` Tim Harvey

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