From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910C2C0502A for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S233332AbiH0AAL (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Aug 2022 20:00:11 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:45780 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230416AbiH0AAK (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Aug 2022 20:00:10 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4641:c500::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2087921E34; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 17:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADEEB61C11; Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6ADAC433C1; Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:00:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1661558407; bh=wD91XKnsSION4QMtASBE/ZLFLHF8lfvCcUZC1JU0mQI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=CT+bRRC9DlT/Sj0fIpyhBWozvPtyiR8VgCSFsy3Ozq4FezUWd8+jcPLSzYCseLEDc 4XFHhPhgcI/s+Jbqv4aWnS6isZ7DWXJ+EE6dgkBn4jEav/ctmpQUSdnhKZpKom8utF u8RnMUr7wK91oT23wh9eKo/b81D49Z5aICAPuH6as2d8EGq9HWqcV4Hg9HkOO6zRsM t2xJXJ89IKvVpH1wkebcSZ+UzDqOzfLRFqTbFf422P6+5BuyFnjRarjhu4qifWk0eD PfmVivOFhgWRY+5CwyVe7aCe0T8egMkExYox60sDb8bMxIRWW7QKrarMvNUgYtnF/B cazthxTym8z6A== Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2022 17:00:05 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Vinicius Costa Gomes Cc: Johannes Berg , netdev@vger.kernel.org, Toke =?UTF-8?B?SMO4aWxhbmQtSsO4cmdlbnNlbg==?= , Avi Stern , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: taprio vs. wireless/mac80211 Message-ID: <20220826170005.79392041@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <87k06uk65f.fsf@intel.com> References: <117aa7ded81af97c7440a9bfdcdf287de095c44f.camel@sipsolutions.net> <20220824191500.6f4e3fb7@kernel.org> <87k06uk65f.fsf@intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 15:10:36 -0700 Vinicius Costa Gomes wrote: > Jakub Kicinski writes: > > > On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 23:50:18 +0200 Johannes Berg wrote: > >> Anyone have recommendations what we should do? > > > > Likely lack of sleep or intelligence on my side but I could not grok > > from the email what the stacking is, and what the goal is. > > > > Are you putting taprio inside mac80211, or leaving it at the netdev > > layer but taking the fq/codel out? > > My read was that they want to do something with taprio with wireless > devices and were hit by the current limitation that taprio only supports > multiqueue interfaces. > > The fq/codel part is that, as far as I know, there's already a fq/codel > implementation inside mac80211. > > The stacking seems to be that packets would be scheduled by taprio and > then by the scheduler inside mac80211 (fq/codel based?). Doesn't adding another layer of non-time-aware queuing after taprio completely defeat its purpose? Perhaps I'm revealing my lack of understanding too much..