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From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@kernel.org>
Cc: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH nf-next] netfilter: nf_tables: add ebpf expression
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:56:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220831125608.GA8153@breakpoint.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v8q84nlq.fsf@toke.dk>

Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@kernel.org> wrote:
> > Tag and program id are dumped to userspace on 'list' to allow to see which
> > program is in use in case the filename isn't available/present.
> 
> It seems a bit odd to include the file path in the kernel as well.

Its needed to be able to re-load the ruleset.

> For
> one thing, the same object can be pinned multiple times in different
> paths (even in different mount namespaces),

Sure.

> and there's also nothing
> preventing a different program to have been substituted by the pinned
> one by the time the value is echoed back.

Yes, but what would you expect it should do?

> Also, there's nothing checking that the path attribute actually contains
> a path, so it's really just an arbitrary label that the kernel promises
> to echo back

Yes exactly.

> But doesn't NFT already have a per-rule comment feature,
> so why add another specifically for BPF?

You can attach up to 256 bytes to a rule, yes.
Might not be enough for a longer path, and there could be multiple
expressions in the same rule.

This way was the most simple solution.

> Instead we could just teach the
> userspace utility to extract metadata from the BPF program (based on the
> ID) like bpftool does. This would include the program name, BTW, so it
> does have a semantic identifier.

Sure, I could change the grammar so it expects a tag or ID, e.g.
'ebpf id 42'

If thats preferred, I can change this, it avoids the need for storing
the name.

> > cbpf bytecode isn't supported.
> > add rule ... ebpf pinned "/sys/fs/bpf/myprog"
> 
> Any plan to also teach the nft binary to load a BPF program from an ELF
> file (instead of relying on pinning)?

I used pinning because that is what '-m bpf' uses.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-31 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-31 10:16 [PATCH nf-next] netfilter: nf_tables: add ebpf expression Florian Westphal
2022-08-31 12:13 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-08-31 12:56   ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2022-08-31 13:41     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-08-31 13:57       ` Florian Westphal
2022-08-31 14:43         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-08-31 15:09           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2022-08-31 15:35             ` Florian Westphal
2022-08-31 20:38               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2022-08-31 15:26           ` Florian Westphal
2022-08-31 15:39             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-31 15:53               ` Florian Westphal
2022-08-31 17:26                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-31 21:49                   ` Daniel Borkmann
2022-09-01  5:18                     ` Eyal Birger
2022-09-02 16:53                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-09-05 17:50                         ` Eyal Birger
2022-09-01 10:14                     ` Florian Westphal
2022-09-02 17:06                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-09-02 17:52                         ` Florian Westphal
2022-08-31 21:57                   ` Florian Westphal
2022-09-06  6:57                     ` Nicolas Dichtel
2022-09-07  3:04                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-09-07 15:52                         ` Nicolas Dichtel
2022-09-01  8:08                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2022-08-31 20:44             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-08-31 13:44     ` Florian Westphal

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