From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F18DC6FA82 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 19:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229721AbiISTka (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:40:30 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:39038 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229492AbiISTk2 (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:40:28 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [139.178.84.217]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A67EF48C8E; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4D03617C0; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 19:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 02F87C433D6; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 19:40:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1663616426; bh=vzHs6HImCbawWl0/lH97YDZV4vqQI59VYt7CEm6uy8I=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=qCYi9yt8oAF9w4DOJqJAwXrdg70FqfFe4OuUXXsPNVUpmdF6sw3X3QgkAuTRnkpap r2Clx8s6svSLh++t/o4C3NYfv/2KSNIcFIQY2WS/snK+VJNgtWGfm8yjgr/2b9t+q7 zMe2hhtvGvS93PwXlfpmAYb/2YrB6fvQolFkRg+NOVp2px0vOuaSdjNz9Y0Z0+Mwx6 Hz9nMO+SFGPZj8GxZlbqoIJX7yVwYIZfPedKL0oYorY44bfwjFiC+NH5dVSE21TVmr gfkXSR8hsDTZYAuFqf5cyhxOJm0eiZ3RZ7qLNleeVgkEUUpqQD/QlOIU9gwEjPmHzh uqU48AoigVYIg== Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:40:24 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Pablo Neira Ayuso Cc: Chris Clayton , Florian Westphal , "netdev@vger.kernel.org" , regressions@lists.linux.dev, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, coreteam@netfilter.org Subject: Re: removing conntrack helper toggle to enable auto-assignment [was Re: b118509076b3 (probably) breaks my firewall] Message-ID: <20220919124024.0c341af4@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20220908191925.GB16543@breakpoint.cc> <78611fbd-434e-c948-5677-a0bdb66f31a5@googlemail.com> <20220908214859.GD16543@breakpoint.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 10 Sep 2022 04:02:18 +0200 Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote: > > > I'll update netfilter.org to host a copy of the github sources. > > > > > > We have been announcing this going deprecated for 10 years... > > > > That may be the case, it should be broken before -rc1 is released. Breaking it at -rc4+ is, I think, a regression! > > Adding Thorsten Leemuis to cc list > > Disagreed, reverting and waiting for one more release cycle will just > postpone the fact that users must adapt their policies, and that they > rely on a configuration which is not secure. What are the chances the firewall actually needs the functionality? Perhaps we can add the file back but have it do nothing?